French term
date limite
Definitions:
"- "Date Limite" : désigne la date extrême à laquelle est envisagée la signature de l'Acte de Vente, telle que prévue à l'Article 19."
"Durée de la Promesse
Les Parties s’obligent à signer l’Acte de Vente au plus tard le [ ] (la « Date Limite »)
Réalisation
La réalisation de la Promesse aura lieu par la signature de l'Acte de Vente, accompagnée du paiement du Prix de Vente, au plus tard à la Date Limite, sauf prorogation de celle-ci dans les conditions des Articles 14.1.
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Si à la Date Limite, il n'est pas procédé à la signature de l’Acte de Vente accompagnée du paiement du Prix de Vente, il sera procédé à l’établissement d’un procès-verbal dans lequel il sera constaté le défaut du Vendeur ou de l'Acquéreur."
It's obvious what this means, I'm just wondering how to put it in a Promesse de Vente. It's the final date permissible for completion. I don't think you can say "deadline" in such a context, and also deadline is not specific enough about a date (rather than a time) being involved.
Feb 22, 2020 11:40: Yvonne Gallagher changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"
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Proposed translations
(final) cut-off date for completion
"Latest date for completion" might be another possibility...
deadline date
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Danielle Coleman
: Or just 'Deadline'
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James Roden
: I don't think 'deadline' is the context-specific answer to this question, merely a more general definition of the term.
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AllegroTrans
: It's more than just a deadline date, it's an absolute final deadline
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acceptance deadline date (and acceptance deadline time)
http://https://www.springshomes.com/blog/understanding-dates-deadlines-in-the-real-estate-contract/
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Tony M
: This isn't really about 'acceptance', and introducing that notion is, I believe, unwise here.
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AllegroTrans
: The sale is already binding, so there is no "acceptance" only a final deed of transfer/conveyance
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completion date
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Asker: Thanks. Trouble is that "date de réalisation" translates as "completion date" where a promesse de vente is concerned. It's got to be differentiated from this: "final permissible completion date", something like that.
I think the distinction between the date by which completion needs to take place and the date on which it really takes place is a false one in an agreement like this. In an EN contract, I think it would be OK to use "completion date" to mean both the date by when it is supposed to take place and the date it does actually take place; only after the fact can they prove to have been different from one another and at that point the obligation has been fulfilled. Nevertheless, if the ST insists on differentiating it does make some sense for you to do so as well, in which case would COMPLETION DEADLINE not work?
Thanks. Trouble is that "date de réalisation" translates as "completion date" where a promesse de vente is concerned. It's got to be differentiated from this: "final permissible completion date", something like that. |
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Sheila Wilson
: Surely that's the date it actually happens, not the latest possible date it could happen?
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I see the tension but, per my note above, I personally don't think it makes a material difference between a future obligation and what is currently a hypothetical future occurrence, but for the fact that the ST does insist on distinguishing.
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Tony M
: The distinction is actually very important! / Yes, but here, it is neither of those! Hence why it's important to use a unique term.
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Except that in English legal contexts, "completion date" can be used pretty interchangeably as "future date for completion" and "date on which completion took place in reality"/ In what way neither? / Never mind I see it now.
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AllegroTrans
: You're right to say it's more than a deadline BUT it's an absolute deadline for completion
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deadline
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Tony M
: Just 'deadline' on its own really won't work here, as James Roden has already commented on an earlier, identical answer.
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AllegroTrans
: It's more than a mere deadline
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closing date
I found a reference in English that seems to be advising people on real estate deals in France. It does use completion date for what seems to me to be the closing date . But to avoid confusion with completion date in the sense of "finished the construction", I think closing date might be your best bet.
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grrrr I wanted to mark my suggestion a 4!
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AllegroTrans
: Maybe OK for US but asker is in UK where we use "completion"
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Tony M
: And in any case, this isn't exactly the closing date: indeed, closing might take place sometime earlier; this is just the final vut-off point by which it MUST occur.
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