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Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

secuenciador de fase

English translation:

phase sequence unit

Added to glossary by Claudia Luque Bedregal
Nov 12, 2014 16:38
9 yrs ago
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Spanish term

secuencia de fase

Spanish to English Tech/Engineering Mechanics / Mech Engineering informe de perito ajustador
Contexto: Descripción de los daños a una grúa torre después de una tormenta eléctrica

Los daños observados son los siguientes: variador de velocidad averiado, secuencia de fase del tablero de control quemada, tres luminarias de la grúa quemadas.

Gracias por su ayuda.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +1 phase sequence indicator
4 +1 phase sequence switch
3 +1 phase sequence
4 sequencial stage/phase
5 -1 phase sequence protection
Change log

Nov 17, 2014 18:13: Claudia Luque Bedregal Created KOG entry

Discussion

Claudia Luque Bedregal (asker) Nov 17, 2014:
@Cranesfreak Hi Cranesfreak. Talked again with the client who asked the head of maintenance, who provided the information contained in the report, and he said that there's the "secuenciador/programador de fase" (which he and his operators use to call "secuencia de fase") and there's the "relé" (unfortunately he didn't specify if it was a protection relay or some other kind of relay). The first one is the one that looks like a circuit board in the picture, and the second one looks like a cube. That is all the information that I have.
Jennifer Levey Nov 14, 2014:
@cranesfreak You continue to ignore Claudia's note under my answer: "the client confirmed he meant to write "secuenciador/programador de fase". That's not a a 'protection' device - it is a device which reverses the direction of rotation of a 3-phase motor.
cranesfreak Nov 14, 2014:
@Claudia Hi Claudia, many thanks for your reply. My proposal is "phase sequence protection". When you design an electric switchboard of a crane or any other machine, and you decide that you need a protection against wrong phase sequence. You can place a phase sequence protection relay or another possible solution can be a phase sequence protection circuit board. As you can see it doesn't matter what you choose, the name is "phase sequence protection".
If what you see in your ST document is a circuit board the right name is "phase sequence protection", but if what you see is an assembly of lamps that are mounted in the front panel of a switch cabinet the right answer is "phase sequence indicator" as my colleague proposed to you.
I think that if you ask to your customer he/she will give you the right answer based on what I am saying to you.
In my personal opinion, considering that we are talking about a tower crane after a thunder storm, my option is the one with better possibilities but f course I can be wrong.
HTH
BRgds :)
Claudia Luque Bedregal (asker) Nov 14, 2014:
@Cranesfreak Thank you for the additional link, but in this case it is not a relay. The report I'm translating includes a picture of a relay (it says "relay dañado") and the picture of this "secuenciador/programador de fase" sent by the client looks like a circuit board.
Jennifer Levey Nov 13, 2014:
@CranesFreak With 50 years' of study of electrical systems and components already under my belt, I find your comment ... let's say ... inappropriate.
Jennifer Levey Nov 13, 2014:
@Cranesfreak (again) And you have completely overlooked Claudia's note in my answer: "the client confirmed he meant to write "secuenciador/programador de fase".
Jennifer Levey Nov 13, 2014:
@Cranesfreak - Pure speculation! Your web-link displays dozens (nay, hundreds) of electrical modules, with a huge variety of names including:
- phase reversal relay
- phase failure and phase sequence relay
- thermal unbalance protection
- phase monitor relay
- negativa phase sequence relay
- voltage monitor
- ... etc. ad nauseam
and all that even before the Google page has finished loading (and without bothering with the stuff that's too small to read on my laptop).

And not one of those images matches Claudia's description of a 'circuit board'.
cranesfreak Nov 13, 2014:
@Asker This is the component that was burnt in the ST's tower crane:

phase sequence protection (relay)

https://www.google.com/search?q=phase sequence protection&sa...

HTH

Rgds:)
Claudia Luque Bedregal (asker) Nov 13, 2014:
@Robin Good idea ;) Thank you Robin!
Jennifer Levey Nov 13, 2014:
@Claudia I suggest you keep it simple and a bit vague: "phase sequence unit".
Claudia Luque Bedregal (asker) Nov 13, 2014:
@Robin Thanks Robin for the additional explanation. However, now I'm not sure if switch is the correct term here. The client has sent me a picture (I don't know why he didn't include it before) and this looks more like a circuit board. So perhaps this could be translated as "phase sequence system" or even "phase sequence circuit board".
Jennifer Levey Nov 13, 2014:
@Claudia With that clarification from the client, and in particular the alternatives "secuenciador/programador", it most likely corresponds to bigedsenior's "switch", not my "indicator". On an operator's control panel, any 'indication' associated with the 'sequenciador' will probably be 'up/down' or 'forward/reverse' (indicating the practical result of a change of phase sequence) rather than giving the operator information about the precise phase sequence (information he doesn't need and might not even understand).
Claudia Luque Bedregal (asker) Nov 13, 2014:
secuenciador/programador de fase Hello everyone and thank you for your suggestions. After reading Robin's comments on the possibility that there was an error in the source text, I asked the client about it and he told me that what he meant was "secuenciador/programador de fase", so Robin was right. Thank you!

Proposed translations

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Selected

phase sequence indicator

'secuencia de fase' is simply the relative timing of waveforms on three wires in a 3-phase system. As such, it cannot burn out. I imagine it in fact refers to an indicator on the panel which displays the phase sequence in real time.

Compare:
http://en-us.fluke.com/products/electrical-testers/fluke-904...
and
http://www.fluke.com/fluke/ares/Instrumentos-de-Medida-Eléct...

An alternative for 'indicador de rotación (de fase)' in Spanish is 'sequenciador (de fase)' - maybe there's an error in the ST, or the author was lazy?
Note from asker:
Thank you Robin for the answer and for pointing out the possible error in the ST. You were right, the client confirmed he meant to write "secuenciador/programador de fase".
Peer comment(s):
agree Charles Davis : It's obviously phase sequence something, maybe meter? It looks to me as though they're using it as shorthand.
2 hrs
Tks. Of course the 'something' in question could be a variety of things, as shown in other answers here.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you Robin. I'm using your last suggestion, "phase sequence unit". Have a nice week."
+1
38 mins

phase sequence

Crane maintenance section 2-0.2: definitions - Konecranes
www.konecranes.co.uk/sites/default/files/download/doc_23_5_...
harmful, or detrimental to or for the operation of a crane, such as excessively high or ... motor line voltage polarity or phase sequence to develop torque in the ...

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Note added at 1 hr (2014-11-12 18:10:35 GMT)
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tablero de control - WordReference.com
www.wordreference.com/es/en/translation.asp?spen=tablero de...
tablero de control - Traduccion ingles de diccionario ingles. ... English: control panel. Forum discussions with the word(s) "tablero de control" in the title: Tablero ...
Note from asker:
Thanks Liz.
Peer comment(s):
neutral Jennifer Levey : A phase sequence is an abstract concept which cannot burn. // The ST says "sequencia de fase ... quemada". That implies that it refers to an inflammable object whereas a 'sequence' is not an object (and less still an 'inflammable' one).
27 mins
not sure what point you are making, secuencia de fase = phase sequence
agree TravellingTrans : the question only asks for this bit out of the remaining "control panel", it's assumed the two would be put back together in the target phrase
1 hr
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+1
2 hrs

phase sequence switch

The switch reverses the motion of the crane by changing the phase of the motor.

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=536385...
Note from asker:
Thank you bigedsenior.
Peer comment(s):
agree Jennifer Levey : That's another valid option, although there's nothing in the ST referring specifically to a 'switch'.
43 mins
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3 hrs

sequencial stage/phase

cheers
Note from asker:
Thanks jude.
Peer comment(s):
neutral Jennifer Levey : Makes no sense in Asker's context. And 'cheers' doesn't elucidate anything...
1 hr
noted?
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-1
3 hrs

phase sequence protection

one option

63T Luffing Jib Tower Crane, Fenghui Lifting Equipment ...
finehopecrane.com/1-1-63t-luffing-jib-tower-crane.html/117180
Tower crane has high-strength, and strong hoisting capacity. ... protection, under voltage protection, phase sequence protection, force moment protection, etc. 8.

HTH

Rgds:)

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Note added at 1 day6 hrs (2014-11-13 22:55:03 GMT)
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This is the component that was burnt in the ST's tower crane:

phase sequence protection (relay)

https://www.google.com/search?q=phase sequence protection&sa...

HTH

Rgds:)

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Note added at 1 day7 hrs (2014-11-14 00:15:59 GMT)
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more about phase sequence protection in electric cranes

PDF]Phase - Schneider Electric
www2.schneider-electric.com/...ELECTRIC/.../dia3ed1051004en.pdf
Phase presence, sequence and balance, voltage, ... Protect. Integrated in the control circuits of your automated systems, they ... Overhead cranes, winches,.
Electric chain hoists repairs supply, crane maintenance ...
www.sunshinecranerepairs.com.au/electric-chain-hoist-500kg-...
Sunshine Crane Repairs offers a supply and repair service for electric chain ... an inverse phase sequence protecting device, this special electrical installation ..

1ton KIXIO Electric Crane Chain Hoist boat lifting cranes ...
jsksn.en.alibaba.com/.../1ton_KIXIO_Electric_Crane_Chain_Hoist_boat_...
1ton KIXIO Electric Crane Chain Hoist boat lifting cranes,US $ 200 - 480 / Set, New, ... Inverse phase sequence protecting device: it is the special electrical ..

PDF]Phase Sensor Product Datasheet - DARE Electronics, Inc.
www.dareelectronics.com/Files/Phase Sensor data sheet.pdf
applied to electrical equipment that is sensitive to incorrect phase sequence (rotation) such as cranes, hoists, elevator motors, flap actuators and heavy machinery. ... Protect aircraft electrical equipment during interconnect of ground power to ...

HTH

Rgds:)

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Note added at 1 day7 hrs (2014-11-14 00:17:59 GMT)
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more about phase sequence protection in electric cranes (2nd part)

Phase Sequence Protector
ccne.mofcom.gov.cn/1313416/p5704600.html
... Phase sequence protector, Overvoltage protector, Undervoltage protection ...electric cabinet, power distribution equipment, crane, central air conditioner ...
The advantage of European-style crane - Dongqi crane
cranedq.com/news/company/the-advantage-of-european-style-crane.html
Apr 24, 2013 - European-style crane manufacturing adopts high-precision machining ... and phase sequence protection, ensuring the cranes of safe operation. ... Theelectric block has outstanding power transmission and braking system ...
HNKS Double Girder Overhead Crane
www.hnkszzmy.com/.../HNKS-Double-Girder-Overhead-Crane-en.h...
Phase sequence protection function. 5. Emergency stop function. 6. Hooks with latch. 7. Rubber buffers. HNKS Double Girder Overhead Crane Advantages: 1.


HTH

Rgds:)

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Note added at 2 days3 hrs (2014-11-14 20:36:28 GMT)
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@Cranesfreak15:25

Thank you for the additional link, but in this case it is not a relay. The report I'm translating includes a picture of a relay (it says "relay dañado") and the picture of this "secuenciador/programador de fase" sent by the client looks like a circuit board.

Re:
@Claudia

Hi Claudia, many thanks for your reply. My proposal is "phase sequence protection". When you design an electric switchboard of a crane or any other machine, and you decide that you need a protection against wrong phase sequence. You can place a phase sequence protection relay or another possible solution can be a phase sequence protection circuit board. As you can see it doesn't matter what you choose, the name is "phase sequence protection".
If what you see in your ST document is a circuit board the right name is "phase sequence protection", but if what you see is an assembly of lamps that are mounted in the front panel of a switch cabinet the right answer is "phase sequence indicator" as my colleague proposed to you.
I think that if you ask to your customer he/she will give you the right answer based on what I am saying to you.
In my personal opinion, considering that we are talking about a tower crane after a thunder storm, my option is the one with better possibilities but f course I can be wrong.
HTH
BRgds :)
Note from asker:
Thank you cranesfreak:)
Peer comment(s):
disagree Jennifer Levey : Changing 'agree' to 'neutral' (at best). It wasn't anything shown in that web-link. // Changing 'neutral to disagree - kindly check the facts.
13 mins
Many thanks!! All the Best :)
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