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Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

liegen/beiliegen

English translation:

stood at/was recorded at/amounted to

Added to glossary by FishX
Dec 4, 2009 21:21
14 yrs ago
German term

liegen/beiliegen

German to English Bus/Financial Business/Commerce (general)
Das operative Ergebnis EBIT I lag im dritten Quartal bei 9,4 Mio. € nach dem Rekordquartalsergebnis von 502,2 Mio. € im Vorjahreszeitraum.

would 'lag ...... mit' in the same context have a different meaning?
Proposed translations (English)
5 +6 stood at/was recorded at
Change log

Dec 4, 2009 22:29: Astrid Elke Witte changed "Term asked" from "beilegen / mitlegen" to "liegen/beiliegen"

Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:

Non-PRO (1): Paul Cohen

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Discussion

David Hollywood Dec 5, 2009:
I still don't see the problem :)
David Hollywood Dec 5, 2009:
persoally I don't see the problem ... looks strightforward to me :)
Bernhard Sulzer Dec 5, 2009:
sentence structure and liegen bei vs. liegen mit A comma after 9,4 Mio. € would help to clarify that the number is directly compared to the record result of last year's third quarter, or one should begin with: Nach dem Rekordquartalsergebnis von 502,2 Mio. € im Vorjahreszeitraum lag das operative Ergebnis im 3. Quartal (dieses Jahres) bei....(the result "was" // "lag ... mit" would work if you said something like "Das...Ergebnis lag mit 9,4 Mio. € weit unter dem von 502 Mio. € im Vorjahreszeitraum (literally: "At" € 9,4 million...the result was far behind...) - as phrased in your other sentence with the -11,7 Million example, except that the result is not "far behind" but "slightly" behind.
FishX (asker) Dec 4, 2009:
I have called in a moderator to edit the question to liegen...bei - liegen...mit isn't an issue
Paul Cohen Dec 4, 2009:
Auf dem Holzweg Yes, Co_rina was "auf dem Holzweg" with "estimated". And the verb is liegen + the preposition bei, as Armorel and Phil have pointed out. FishX's ears must be burning!
FishX (asker) Dec 4, 2009:
I do need a translation into English - I admit I got the verb wrong that's too bad, we all make mistakes
Kim Metzger Dec 4, 2009:
At -11,7 Mio. €, the Finanzergebnis lag etwas unter ...

Das Finanzergebnis lag ... mit -11,7 Mio. € ... etwas unter dem des Vorjahres.
Kim Metzger Dec 4, 2009:
Shouldn't this question be posted under German - German? It doesn't look like you need a translation into English.
FishX (asker) Dec 4, 2009:
Das Finanzergebnis lag im dritten Quartal mit -11,7 Mio. € aufgrund höherer Zinsaufwendungen, inklusive Einmalaufwendungen im Zusammenhang mit der Finanzierung des Erwerbs von Morton Salt, etwas unter dem des Vorjahres. - this is the sentence with legen or liegen mit
philgoddard Dec 4, 2009:
I think they both mean "was", and it's nothing to do with "estimated", so Co_Rina is wrong. And it's not a separable verb "beiliegen", it's liegen + bei, as Armorel pointed out.
FishX (asker) Dec 4, 2009:
armorel young says is legen....bei and legen...mit - the sentence comes from an authentic German text
Paul Cohen Dec 4, 2009:
"lag ... mit" would fit in a different context I agree with Co_rina. lag ... mit wouldn't fit this context. You could perhaps write something like "Mit einem Rekordquartalsergebnis von 502,2 Mio. €, lag das operative Ergebnis wesentlich höher als im Vorjahreszeitraum." And Co_rina is correct with one thing. The translation would be "was". By the way, the verb you are looking to translate here is not "beilegen" -- it's "beiliegen" -- "lag" is the past of "liegen," not "legen".
FishX (asker) Dec 4, 2009:
ok, I'll fix it
FishX (asker) Dec 4, 2009:
I'll find the sentence with 'lag mit' - maybe 'was approx.' fits better in English for 'lag bei'?
Armorel Young Dec 4, 2009:
but the verb isn't beilegen or mitlegen - it's simply legen with the preposition bei or mit - would be helpful if somebody corrected the posted term before it messes up the glossary
Co_rina Dec 4, 2009:
Ich finde, lag ... mit würde hier nicht passen. Lag ... bei verstehe ich als "(was) estimated at"

Proposed translations

+6
5 hrs
Selected

stood at/was recorded at

there we go :)

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Note added at 5 hrs (2009-12-05 02:44:42 GMT)
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or: "amounted to" but the tech jargon is really "stood at"

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Note added at 5 hrs (2009-12-05 02:52:04 GMT)
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and "lag ..mit" is the same thing essentially .. just means "stood at"
Peer comment(s):
agree Johanna Timm, PhD
3 hrs
agree Rolf Keiser
7 hrs
agree babli : agree
12 hrs
agree Thayenga
13 hrs
agree Bernhard Sulzer : agree, but if using "liegen mit" the sentence would have to be structured differently. See my examples in the discussion. :)
14 hrs
agree gangels (X)
1 day 13 hrs
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