Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
heavenbound
French translation:
destiné au paradis
Added to glossary by
Tony M
Mar 8, 2012 16:04
12 yrs ago
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English term
heavenbound
English to French
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Religion
christian
if knowing and treasuring the truth of God's Word is crucial to being holy and loving and mature and heavenbound, and if we by nature cannot see the wonders of God's Word and feel the attraction of its glory, then we are in a desperate condition and need to pray for God to help us see.
I would like to know how to translate the word " heavenbound " in french
thanks for your help
I would like to know how to translate the word " heavenbound " in french
thanks for your help
Proposed translations
(French)
| 1 +4 | destiné au paradis |
Tony M
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| 3 +3 | promis au paradis |
Odile Raymond
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| 4 +2 | en route vers le Ciel |
Bernard Moret
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| 3 +1 | en direction du paradis... |
yves la
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| 3 | sur le chemin des cieux |
Anne-Marie Laliberté (X)
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Change log
Mar 8, 2012 17:15: Tristan Jimenez changed "Level" from "Non-PRO" to "PRO"
Mar 9, 2012 21:36: Tony M Created KOG entry
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PRO (3): Tony M, Colin Rowe, Tristan Jimenez
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Proposed translations
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destiné au paradis
I feel sure this is the intended meaning — people who are headed for Heaven, who are destined to go there.
However, I freely admit I have no idea whether it is possible to express that notion thus in FR! Help from the native-speakers!
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The adjective is used here predicatively: "crucial to being... heavenbound"
However, I freely admit I have no idea whether it is possible to express that notion thus in FR! Help from the native-speakers!
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The adjective is used here predicatively: "crucial to being... heavenbound"
Peer comment(s):
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Colin Rowe
: This is certainly the correct interpretation of the meaning. In the mean time, be heaven-blessed and heavenbound (not that I am suggesting you should go immediately!)! :-) // I guess that's what they all think until they get there... :-(
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Thanks, Colin! Oh, I have gravity on my side, I'm bound for 'the other place' — and it sounds like a whole lot more fun! ;-)
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Tristan Jimenez
: correct too!
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Thanks, Tristan!
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Alain Boulé
: peut être simplement "sauvé"
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Merci, Alain ! Peut-être... mais j'ai l'impression que ça va un peu plus loin que simplement ça... ???
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Elise Diana (X)
: d'accord avec Alain, c'est ça dans la religion, être "sauvé".
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Merci, Elise !
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Merci à tous pour l'aide"
+3
5 mins
Odile Raymond
France
France
Native in French
France
Certified translator-English/Chinese →FR
Native in: French (Variant: Standard-France)
Works in: English to French, Chinese to French, French
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promis au paradis
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www.muslimshop.fr › Livres
Titre complet : Paroles sages et exhortations des dix compagnons promis au paradis.
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www.muslimshop.fr › Livres
Titre complet : Paroles sages et exhortations des dix compagnons promis au paradis.
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: Wouldn't that rather imply 'bound' in the sense of 'tied'? Here, it clearly means 'headed for' (as in homeward bound), i.e. sure to go there...
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merci !
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EllieZa (X)
: Alors peut-être plutôt : destiné au paradis ?
Ah tu l'avais déjà dit... oups.
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merci !
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Johanne Bouthillier
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merci !
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GILLES MEUNIER
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merci !
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Letredenoblesse
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merci !
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+1
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en direction du paradis...
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: Surely that would be a prepositional expression, whereas what we need here is an adjective? But I think this is at least the right idea... / Fair comment; but still, how do you propose actually fitting your suggestion into the sentence?
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Unfortunately English is more objective than french and in this case I guess it will be difficult to find an adjective..
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Tristan Jimenez
: I didn't find any adjective.. Anyway I think your answer would fit properly in that sentence, and.. your answer is so far the only one with a correct meaning. Another suggestion could be "sur le chemin du Paradis"...
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1 hr
en route vers le Ciel
"en route vers" c'est, il me semble, un expression religieuse que l'on retrouve fréquemment dans les textes.
d'autres exemples : en route pour le Ciel, en route vers le Seigneur
d'autres exemples : en route pour le Ciel, en route vers le Seigneur
Peer comment(s):
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Colin Rowe
: Et voilà!
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Merci Colin.
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TheAlphaSens (X)
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Merci TAS
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10 hrs
sur le chemin des cieux
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Reference comments
1 hr
Colin Rowe
Germany
Germany
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Works in: German to English, French to English, Italian to English, and 3 more.
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Reference:
For those unsure of the meaning here...
... it means someone who is a born-again believer in Jesus Christ, someone with the certainty in their heart that they will go to heaven when they die.
The following site explains it well.
"Are You Heavenbound? How can you be sure that after you die God will allow you into heaven?"
http://www.newcanaanbaptistchurch.com/pages.asp?pageid=92535
See also John 3:16; John 14:1-6, etc.
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My thanks to TheAlphaSense for providing the context which, I feel, confirms, rather than refutes, my interpretation. The reference to "heavenbound" is all about being saved and getting to heaven.
"Knowing [...] the truth of God's Word is crucial to being [...] heavenbound."
The truth in question is the content and message of God's word.
Without knowledge of that truth, as the sermon continues, we are not Christians, and therefore not "saved", i.e. not "heavenbound":
"The glory of the Word is like the shining of the sun in the face of blind man unless God opens our eyes to that glory. And if we don't see the glory, we won't be changed (2 Corinthians 3:18; John 17:17), and if we are not changed, we are not Christians."
A few additional relevant quotations from the sermon:
"As we begin 1998, God's aim for us is that we be set on a two-railed train track in the direction of holiness and love and mission and heaven. The two rails of this train are prayer before the throne of God and meditation on the Word of God."
"Praying before the throne of God and meditating on the Word of God are like parallel rails that enable the train of our souls to stay on the track that leads to holiness and heaven."
"The Word is crucial for living a Godward life that leads to heaven and has power and meaning on earth."
"Now these are Christians he is writing to, which shows that we need to go on praying until we get to heaven for spiritual eyes to see."
http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/sermons/open-my-...
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@TheAlphaSense:
Tu dis:
"Or la connaissance de la bible n'est en aucun cas une condition au salut dans le monde évangelique..."
Oui et non. Ce n'est pas en apprenant des vers par coeur qu'on obtiendra le salut. C'est en reconnaissant en Jésus Christ le sauveur du monde. Et on parvient comment à cette connaissance? On obtient comment cette foi?
Comme dit Paul dans son épître aux romains (10,17):
"Ainsi la foi vient de ce qu'on entend, et ce qu'on entend vient de la parole de Christ."
The following site explains it well.
"Are You Heavenbound? How can you be sure that after you die God will allow you into heaven?"
http://www.newcanaanbaptistchurch.com/pages.asp?pageid=92535
See also John 3:16; John 14:1-6, etc.
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Note added at 3 hrs (2012-03-08 19:10:10 GMT)
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My thanks to TheAlphaSense for providing the context which, I feel, confirms, rather than refutes, my interpretation. The reference to "heavenbound" is all about being saved and getting to heaven.
"Knowing [...] the truth of God's Word is crucial to being [...] heavenbound."
The truth in question is the content and message of God's word.
Without knowledge of that truth, as the sermon continues, we are not Christians, and therefore not "saved", i.e. not "heavenbound":
"The glory of the Word is like the shining of the sun in the face of blind man unless God opens our eyes to that glory. And if we don't see the glory, we won't be changed (2 Corinthians 3:18; John 17:17), and if we are not changed, we are not Christians."
A few additional relevant quotations from the sermon:
"As we begin 1998, God's aim for us is that we be set on a two-railed train track in the direction of holiness and love and mission and heaven. The two rails of this train are prayer before the throne of God and meditation on the Word of God."
"Praying before the throne of God and meditating on the Word of God are like parallel rails that enable the train of our souls to stay on the track that leads to holiness and heaven."
"The Word is crucial for living a Godward life that leads to heaven and has power and meaning on earth."
"Now these are Christians he is writing to, which shows that we need to go on praying until we get to heaven for spiritual eyes to see."
http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/sermons/open-my-...
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@TheAlphaSense:
Tu dis:
"Or la connaissance de la bible n'est en aucun cas une condition au salut dans le monde évangelique..."
Oui et non. Ce n'est pas en apprenant des vers par coeur qu'on obtiendra le salut. C'est en reconnaissant en Jésus Christ le sauveur du monde. Et on parvient comment à cette connaissance? On obtient comment cette foi?
Comme dit Paul dans son épître aux romains (10,17):
"Ainsi la foi vient de ce qu'on entend, et ce qu'on entend vient de la parole de Christ."
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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TheAlphaSens (X)
: Contexte de la citation : http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/sermons/open-my-...
En effet, je fais amende honorable - mes excuses.
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"knowing [...] the truth of God's Word is crucial to being [...] heavenbound". The "-bound" here means that one is going there, not merely focused on it. // Merci, il n'y a pas de quoi, et merci encore d'avoir trouvé le contexte :-)
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Discussion
Here is an old and interesting usage of "destiné" (without "à"):
http://littre.reverso.net/dictionnaire-francais/definition/d...
Absolument.
"Ils souffraient que toutes leurs heures fussent destinées [eussent une destination, un emploi marqué]". [Bossuet, Discours sur l'histoire universelle]
I think I see your point, but "destiné à" is always used in a figurative sense; roughly speaking, it means destined for/intended for (depending on the context), but it does not mean bound for a destination.
Anyway, I also agree that the other translations ("en direction de, en chemin vers, etc.) are not suitable as they do not fit in the sentence.
I believe that this usage of "promis" means pretty much the same as "destiné", it's just that the latter may be a little stronger. Please, see ref. below:
http://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/être_voué/8255...
http://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/être_promis/64...
"Etre promis, être fatalement destiné à quelque chose..."
"Or la connaissance de la bible n'est en aucun cas une condition au salut dans le monde évangelique..."
Oui et non. Ce n'est pas en apprenant des vers par coeur qu'on obtiendra le salut. C'est en reconnaissant en Jésus Christ le sauveur du monde. Et on parvient comment à cette connaissance? On obtient comment cette foi?
Comme dit Paul dans son épître aux romains (10,17):
"Ainsi la foi vient de ce qu'on entend, et ce qu'on entend vient de la parole de Christ."