French term
sous-traitant
Is there any difference with 'sous-traitant ultérieur'?
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James Roden
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Sep 26, 2019 15:59: mchd changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"
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Proposed translations
[data] processor
responsable du traitement = [data] controller
sous-traitant = [data] processor
sous-traitant ultérieur = sub-processor
To answer your final question explicitly, yes, there is a difference between "sous-traitant" and "sous-traitant ultérieur" - the sous-traitant is a data processor to whom the "responsable" or controller entrusts processing of the data for which they are responsible. The sous-traitant ultérieur or sub-processor is one more down the chain of delegation: a party to whom the sous-traitant entrusts processing duties in turn.
The easiest way to find the equivalent terms in data protection legislation is simply to compare the FR and EN versions of the legislation, which are freely available online.
«responsable du traitement», la personne physique ou morale, l'autorité publique, le service ou un autre organisme qui, seul ou conjointement avec d'autres, détermine les finalités et les moyens du traitement;
«sous-traitant», la personne physique ou morale, l'autorité publique, le service ou un autre organisme qui traite des données à caractère personnel pour le compte du responsable du traitement;
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/FR/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32016R0679
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:32016R0679
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AllegroTrans
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Rabie El Magdouli
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Discussion
The EUR-Lex site offers multilingual view of legislation, so you can see the FR and EN side by side and check each term. Here, for example, is the GDPR/RGPD in EN/FR view:
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN-FR/TXT/?uri=CELEX...
Il appartient au sous-traitant de s’assurer que le sous-traitant ultérieur présente les mêmes garanties suffisantes quant à la mise en œuvre de mesures techniques et organisationnelles appropriées de manière à ce que le traitement réponde aux exigences du règlement européen sur la protection des données.
Cette sous-traitance ne peut être effectuée que si le responsable de traitement n'a pas émis d'objection ou de demandes d’informations pendant le délai convenu.