Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
der Auftraggeber von den den Anspruch begründenden Umständen und der Person des
English translation:
the client became aware of the circumstances supporting the claim and of the identity of the liable
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Sep 12, 2013 16:39
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der Auftraggeber von den den Anspruch begründenden Umständen und der Person des
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Law: Contract(s)
part of a standard form for tax advisors in Germany (Liability clause)
The whole sentence is this:
"Soweit ein Schadenersatzanspruch des Auftraggebers kraft Gesetzes nicht einer kürzeren Verjährungsfrist unterliegt, verjährt er in drei Jahren von dem Zeitpunkt an,
- in dem der Anspruch entstanden ist, und der Auftraggeber von den den Anspruch begründenden Umständen und der Person des Schuldners Kenntnis erlangt oder ohne grobe Fahrlässigkeit erlangen müsste."
i am somehow struggling with the syntax of the second part.
This is taken from "Allgemeine Auftragsbedingungen für Steuerberater, Steuerbevollmächtigte und Steuerberatungsgesellschaften", Paragraph 5 HAFTUNG.
"Soweit ein Schadenersatzanspruch des Auftraggebers kraft Gesetzes nicht einer kürzeren Verjährungsfrist unterliegt, verjährt er in drei Jahren von dem Zeitpunkt an,
- in dem der Anspruch entstanden ist, und der Auftraggeber von den den Anspruch begründenden Umständen und der Person des Schuldners Kenntnis erlangt oder ohne grobe Fahrlässigkeit erlangen müsste."
i am somehow struggling with the syntax of the second part.
This is taken from "Allgemeine Auftragsbedingungen für Steuerberater, Steuerbevollmächtigte und Steuerberatungsgesellschaften", Paragraph 5 HAFTUNG.
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Ted Wozniak
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the client became aware of the circumstances supporting the claim and of the identity of the liable
The entire AAB for StB is available in an "authorized" (I didn't say good) version is available at various sites online or in print from the DWS-Verlag
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Unless a claim for damage by the client is not subject to a shorter limitation period by law it becomes statute-barred
a) after three years from the time the claim arose, and the client became aware of the circumstances supporting the claim and of the identity of the liable party, or would have obtained such knowledge, had he not acted with gross negligence,
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Unless a claim for damage by the client is not subject to a shorter limitation period by law it becomes statute-barred
a) after three years from the time the claim arose, and the client became aware of the circumstances supporting the claim and of the identity of the liable party, or would have obtained such knowledge, had he not acted with gross negligence,
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Andrew Bramhall
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Insofar as no compensation claim over a shorter period is made at law by the client , then a statutory period of limitation of three years will apply, starting from the time the claim arose, or when the client first became aware of the circumstances of it ,the identity of the debtor became known, or where this had to have arisen from gross negligence;
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Note added at 1 hr (2013-09-12 17:45:55 GMT)
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This is the starting point for the three year statutory period,either:
1) from the date of the compensation claim;
2) from the date the client first became aware of the need for a claim;
3) the date the debtor/ indebted party became known;
4) or from the date gross negligence could be proved;
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Note added at 1 hr (2013-09-12 17:45:55 GMT)
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This is the starting point for the three year statutory period,either:
1) from the date of the compensation claim;
2) from the date the client first became aware of the need for a claim;
3) the date the debtor/ indebted party became known;
4) or from the date gross negligence could be proved;
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Michael Martin, MA
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when the party incurring the damage...
I think the English version below is good even without mentioning grobe Fahrlässigkeit.
"... 3 years from the date when the party incurring the damage had knowledge, or should have had knowledge of the circumstances justifying the claim and of the identity of liable party."
Also see below:
"... 3 years from the date when the party incurring the damage had knowledge, or should have had knowledge, of the damage and of the identity of liable party."
"... 3 years from the date when the party incurring the damage had knowledge, or should have had knowledge of the circumstances justifying the claim and of the identity of liable party."
Also see below:
"... 3 years from the date when the party incurring the damage had knowledge, or should have had knowledge, of the damage and of the identity of liable party."
Note from asker:
| TNX Michael. now i have to put it into Hebrew... |
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