Jan 5, 2007 21:52
17 yrs ago
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German term
United Kingdom
Soaring over the language barrier
Native in: English 
Works in: German to English, French to English
frachtfreie Lieferung
German to English
Law/Patents
Transport / Transportation / Shipping
Terms and Conditions
"Ist frachtfreie Lieferung vereinbart, ohne dass die Sendung freigemacht oder die Fracht von der Rechnung abgezogen ist, so hat der Kaeufer die Fracht zu verauslagen, er darf sie vom Rechnungsbetrag kuerzen."
"If freight-free delivery is agreed but without delivery being free of charge or deducted from the invoice, the buyer must disburse the freight charges and may then deduct them from the invoice amount."
Do you feel my English translation corresponds with the German? I find it odd that something can be described as freight-free, but then the client is still liable to pay shipping costs even though it appears s/he can deduct them from the final invoice amount.
"If freight-free delivery is agreed but without delivery being free of charge or deducted from the invoice, the buyer must disburse the freight charges and may then deduct them from the invoice amount."
Do you feel my English translation corresponds with the German? I find it odd that something can be described as freight-free, but then the client is still liable to pay shipping costs even though it appears s/he can deduct them from the final invoice amount.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +1 | prepaid |
Kim Metzger
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| 4 +1 | to pay postage |
Daina Jauntirans
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| 3 +1 | to advance |
Gert Sass (M.A.)
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| 3 | you go the gist right |
Friderike Butler
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Change log
Jan 6, 2007 19:02: Marcus Malabad changed "Term asked" from "Confusion " to "frachtfreie Lieferung "
Jan 6, 2007 19:39: Steffen Walter changed "Field (specific)" from "Law: Contract(s)" to "Transport / Transportation / Shipping"
Proposed translations
+1
7 mins
Kim Metzger
Mexico
Mexico
Native in English
Works in field
Mexico
Committed to Quality and Service
Native in: English (Variant: US) 
Works in: German to English
Related KudoZ points
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558
German term (edited):
Confusion
Selected
prepaid
Die Sendung freimachen is to prepay postage. So my understanding is:
If freight-free delivery is agreed *but postage has not been prepaid* or deducted from the invoice, the buyer must disburse the freight charges and may then deduct them from the invoice amount.
If freight-free delivery is agreed *but postage has not been prepaid* or deducted from the invoice, the buyer must disburse the freight charges and may then deduct them from the invoice amount.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you Kim and thank you everyone else too. "Freimachen" was obviously my problem and I'll remember it now!! I got into a pickle when the text talked about postage free but then the customer would have to pay for it anyway and get a refund later. The law(d) works in mysterious ways."
+1
3 mins
Daina Jauntirans
Native in English
Translating the MESSAGE, not just WORDS
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, Latvian to English
German term (edited):
freimachen
to pay postage
Your mistake is translating "freimachen" as "free of charge" - it actually means that the postage is paid.
"ohne daß die Sendung freigemacht...ist" = "without freight charges/postage on the shipment being paid"
"ohne daß die Sendung freigemacht...ist" = "without freight charges/postage on the shipment being paid"
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Lancashireman
: 3 mins. Very good. Maybe it was a mistake to start with 'Your mistake...'
1 hr
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Sorry, but that is a clear mistranslation!
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5 mins
Friderike Butler
United States
United States
Native in German
Works in field
United States
Language Expert(s) at Your Service
Native in: German
Works in: German to English, English to German
German term (edited):
Confusion
you go the gist right
In case the shipper hadn't been prepaid the shipping even though free shipping had been agreed, the recipient must pay the company that delivers the freight and may then deduct the expense from the final invoice.
This clause seems to cover the cases when against all best intentions the shipping through a third party company has not been prepaid and the shipping costs are then due at the time of delivery.
This clause seems to cover the cases when against all best intentions the shipping through a third party company has not been prepaid and the shipping costs are then due at the time of delivery.
+1
7 mins
Gert Sass (M.A.)
Germany
Germany
Native in German
Works in field
Germany
Precision for those who appreciate it.
Native in: German
Works in: English to German, German to English, French to German, and 5 more.
Related KudoZ points
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4
German term (edited):
verauslagen
to advance
It seems that this may have caused the trouble.
The client advances shipping fees for return by the seller. Instead of waiting for the returned amount, s/he is free to deduct the fees from the invoice amount.
The client advances shipping fees for return by the seller. Instead of waiting for the returned amount, s/he is free to deduct the fees from the invoice amount.
Discussion
That would be my suggestion