Non-ProZ.com Apr 10, 2005:

:-))

df49f (X) Apr 10, 2005:

no problem Dusty! glad I could help by "inspiring" someone else... :-))

Non-ProZ.com Apr 9, 2005:

Oh, and df49f --- thanks for your contribution too; had you entered your own suggestion (materially different from Gayle's) as an answer, rather than merely as a peer comment, I would have been able to accept it 19 minutes before Mactrad so kindly answered with the same idea. Clearly, great minds do think alike!

Non-ProZ.com Apr 9, 2005:

Thanks, Charlie! Part of my reason for closing unsually quickly is to avoid people the trouble of answering unnecessarily --- unless people have especially strong feelings, in which case they may be inclined to contribute post-grading.

I agree that the Fed's version is less than optimum, but for the kind of purposes I need, it will probably get me out of trouble; and at least I can point to it as being their 'official' translation, if anyone queries it!

Charlie Bavington Apr 9, 2005:

And I have to say the Fed's Eng version is less than ideal in many ways. It reads appallingly. These things are probably often done by folk who know no more about it that we do, and in this case, I would hazard, actually know less.

Charlie Bavington Apr 9, 2005:

Think you would've been wise to wait a while before deciding on an answer. If you need one quick, by all means mentally select one, but it's never good to cut off potential other answers so soon, especially at the weekend.

Non-ProZ.com Apr 9, 2005:

Thanks, Mactrad! I'm glad you see it that way too! Of course, I would never dream of being so rude and ungrateful as to use a bald 'Decline' --- better in that case just to shut up! :-)

Graham macLachlan Apr 9, 2005:

ahem...to the declinee.

Graham macLachlan Apr 9, 2005:

Hi Dusty, I agree with your polite use of 'Decline' as a way of explaining why you haven't chosen someone's answer, however it is rude if the decliner provides no explanation and, as such, could be construed as a 'slap in the face' by the declinee, cheers

lien Apr 9, 2005:

without having to scroll all around to read what people say.

lien Apr 9, 2005:

Never mind, that was the conversation which is interesting. I understand why you used the "decline", you thought it a more personnal answer to each. But now you find out that it happens on the top, which is not such a bad thing as one can read as it comes

Non-ProZ.com Apr 9, 2005:

TOPYS... err, typsos... err... W/A --- if I had that URL, I'd make a fortune with it ;-))) In fact, I probably wouldn't be an over-worked and under-paid jobbing translator! Sometimes mine are so good, the Word spell-checker reurns the error message "You GOTTA be KIDDING!" Mind you, when it comes to creative use of language, I do occasionally quite unwittingly come up with some original turns of phrase --- like the time I bemoaned being woken up by the "dawn raucous"

Am I glad of the "Ctrl + Zut!" shortcut!

Non-ProZ.com Apr 9, 2005:

TOPYS... err, typsos... err... W/A --- if I had that URL, I'd make a fortune with it ;-))) In fact, I probably wouldn't be an over-worked and under-paid jobbing translator! Sometimes mine are so good, the Word spell-checker reurns the error message "You GOTTA be KIDDING!" Mind you, when it comes to creative use of language, I do occasionally quite unwittingly come up with some original turns of phrase --- like the time I bemoaned being woken up by the "dawn raucous"

Am I glad of the "Ctrl + Zut!" shortcut!

Non-ProZ.com Apr 9, 2005:

Thanks to Lien too!
Hi there! Well, at risk of getting my wrists slapped by W/A for so doing (I'm worried about all this slapping stuff...!), I had been intending to 'Decline' Lien's answer too, just so I could comment on it at greater length; but I clicked 'Accept' first, and seem to have got myself stuck now...

I wanted to say that I SO agree with what you say about 'conveying the same idea', and I think I will sometimes follow your advice and gor for 'National Park'; so I would have liked to share the points with you too!

However, in some of the contexts where I encounter this, the regional aspect is being emphasized, and so in those instances, I think the 'official' transaltion including 'Regional' will work better.

Thanks again to you, and ALL answerers for your input --- 'Declined' or not, I really DO hugely appreciate your comments and insights.

And to those sensitive souls who feel face-slapped by a politely-appreciative 'Decline', please don't ever take it that way coming from me!

Maybe KudoZ could come up with another way for Askers to add more personal comments alongside each answer, instead of all cramped together up here at the top.

writeaway Apr 9, 2005:

plse read slap in the face (and please give me a URL for advice on avoiding typos ;-) )

writeaway Apr 9, 2005:

A decline is generally perceived as a slap in the fact-you asked for input here and people have offered you input.As it's a rather arbitrary decision there is little point in officially refusing input.Each person does as he/she sees fit.

Non-ProZ.com Apr 9, 2005:

To Rita:
Yes, thanks, Rita, that's a good idea; indeed, it bears very little resemblance indeed to a 'park' as such. As I have explained elsewhere, one of the problems is that I often have to work to a tight character count, so can't allow myself the luxury of a lengthy explanation! :-)

Non-ProZ.com Apr 9, 2005:

Don't misunderstand me...
Thanks a lot, W/A for your comment --- but I fear you have entirely misunderstood my use of 'decline'!

My only reason for so doing is not to reject someone's opinion (though I reserve the right to explain that this opinion does not necessarily suit my own needs), but purely and simply so that I can use the 'Decline' message box to add a more personal thank you and note to the Answerer --- as far as I am aware, this is the only way it can be done via KudoZ?

RHELLER Apr 9, 2005:

sounds like it's not truly a park; how about restricted development area/land?

writeaway Apr 9, 2005:

it's a personal decision-why decline people's opinions?