Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Serbian term or phrase:
državni teret
English translation:
government (tax) lien
Added to glossary by
Sherefedin MUSTAFA
Jun 7, 2012 18:35
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Serbian term
Netherlands
Eppur si muove!
Native in: Albanian 
, Macedonian
Works in: Dutch to Albanian, Albanian to Dutch, Dutch to Macedonian, and 18 more.
državni teret
Serbian to English
Other
Real Estate
Zakon o državnom teretu i katastru
Proposed translations
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| 4 | government (tax) lien |
Milena Taylor
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| 5 | (Official) Land Survey and Land Registry Act |
Daryo
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| 3 +1 | State Survey and Cadastre Law |
Vesna KK
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Proposed translations
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Milena Taylor
Serbia
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Native in Serbian
Works in field
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Native in: Serbian (Variant: Cyrillic and Latin) , Serbo-Croat
Works in: English to Serbian, Serbian to English
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government (tax) lien
A government tax lien is a lien imposed on property by law to secure payment of taxes. Tax liens may be imposed for delinquent taxes owed on real property or personal property), or as a result of failure to pay income taxes or other taxes.
Example sentence:
Unlike personal debts, government tax liens on real estate "run with the land"; that is, a property owner becomes responsible for payment even if the tax obligation was incurred by a prior owner. Depending on the law of the State or jurisdiction, the owne
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Daryo
: To bi bio VEOMA dobar prevod da pitanje nije pogresno postvaljeno. "Zakon o državnom teretu i katastru" NE POSTOJI. Postoji "Zakon o državnom premeru i katastru (Sl. glasnik RS br. 72/09)". Nikad se uzimajte pitanje zdravo za gotovo.
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Comment: "Hvala svima."
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Serbian term (edited):
Zakon o državnom premeru i katastru
(Official) Land Survey and Land Registry Act
the ONLY law that's got anything to do with surveying land and cadastre is:
"Zakon o državnom premeru i katastru (Sl. glasnik RS br. 72/09)"
so you have an obvious mistake in your source text.
The usual term in UK is "Land Registry"
State survey is ambiguous; is the State doing the survey or being surveyed?
Official survey is more precise, although it could even be omitted - no state is going to base its land registry on anything less than an officially conducted/approved survey.
"Zakon o državnom premeru i katastru (Sl. glasnik RS br. 72/09)"
so you have an obvious mistake in your source text.
The usual term in UK is "Land Registry"
State survey is ambiguous; is the State doing the survey or being surveyed?
Official survey is more precise, although it could even be omitted - no state is going to base its land registry on anything less than an officially conducted/approved survey.
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Vesna KK
: Možete li navesti bar jednu referencu gde se ovaj pojam spominje?http://www.rgz.gov.rs/template4.asp?PageName=osnovno_o_nama&...
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http://www.landregistry.gov.uk ; imao sam svega 20 godina prilike da vidim iznutra kakav se engleski govori u Engleskoj - sajtovi -----.rs NISU referenca za engleski nego za srpski jezik.
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Mira Stepanovic
: Izvinite, generalno se slažem po pitanju referenci ali mislim da sajtovi ...rs u ovom slučaju jesu merodavni jer se radi o našem zakonu i o zvanično usvojemom prevodu na engleski jezik. Jedino pod tim nazivom (prevodom) je moguće pronaći taj zakon.
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Jedina merodavna ("zvanicna") verzija je tekst zakona objavljen u Sluzbenom listu RS na srpskom jeziku. Kada Skupstina Srbije bude vodila rasprave na engleskom i usvajala zakone na engleskom, postojace "zvanicna" verzija na engleskom.
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State Survey and Cadastre Law
Ima li konteksta?
Ovo sam onako od oka... nisam sigurna.
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Potpuno sam sigurna da je ovo ispravan izraz. Pogledajte na ovoj stranici:
http://www.rgz.gov.rs/template1a.asp?PageName=zakonski_propi...
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Još jedan primer:
http://www.nekretnine.co.me/dok/Law on State Surveying and I...
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Note added at 12 hrs (2012-06-08 07:05:10 GMT)
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I evo još jedan primer. Ovde imamo spisak srbijanskih zakona:
STATE SURVEY AND CADASTRE LAW
Adopted 31.08.2009, Came into force 11.09.2009, Published in Sl. glasnik RS 72/09
http://www.pregled-rs.com/products2.php?id=460
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http://inspire.jrc.ec.europa.eu/events/conferences/inspire_2...
Ovo sam onako od oka... nisam sigurna.
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Note added at 12 hrs (2012-06-08 06:59:52 GMT)
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Potpuno sam sigurna da je ovo ispravan izraz. Pogledajte na ovoj stranici:
http://www.rgz.gov.rs/template1a.asp?PageName=zakonski_propi...
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Note added at 12 hrs (2012-06-08 07:02:59 GMT)
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Još jedan primer:
http://www.nekretnine.co.me/dok/Law on State Surveying and I...
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Note added at 12 hrs (2012-06-08 07:05:10 GMT)
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I evo još jedan primer. Ovde imamo spisak srbijanskih zakona:
STATE SURVEY AND CADASTRE LAW
Adopted 31.08.2009, Came into force 11.09.2009, Published in Sl. glasnik RS 72/09
http://www.pregled-rs.com/products2.php?id=460
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Note added at 12 hrs (2012-06-08 07:06:34 GMT)
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http://inspire.jrc.ec.europa.eu/events/conferences/inspire_2...
Peer comment(s):
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Mira Stepanovic
: Ukoliko postoji zvaničan prevod naslova tog zakona na eng. jezik (očigledno postoji) mislim da ga treba usvojiti da bi se izbegla bilo kakva zabuna jer ga engleski čitalac neće naći pod nekim drugim nazivom (pa čak i kad bi taj drugi naziv bio korektniji)
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Hvala kolegice, tako sam i ja mislila :) Ipak se ovde radi o srbijanskom zakonu, a ne britanskom.
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Reference comments
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Reference:
Zakon o državnom premeru i katastru (Sl. glasnik RS br. 72/09)
U Službenom glasniku Republike Srbije br. 72/09 objavljen je
Zakon o državnom premeru i katastru
Zakon o državnom premeru i katastru
Discussion
ca·das·tre also ca·das·ter (k-dstr)
n.
A public record, survey, or map of the value, extent, and ownership of land as a basis of taxation.
Pri tome vas molim da pažljivije pročitate šta sam napisala, nigde nisam spomenula "tekst zakona" već "naslov/naziv zakona".
Zakoni se objavljuju u Sluzbenom glasniku RS na srpskom, koji je jedina “zvanicna” verzija.
Prevod nekog zakona na engleski (ili francuski, nemacki itd) bi bio “zvanicni” prevod samo ako bi taj prevod bio potvrdjen od drzave kao prevod koji ima isti snagu pred organima vlasti u Srbiji kao i tekst na srpskom. Ja nisam mogao da nadjem izvor gde postoje takvi prevodi zakona.
Moguce je kupiti prevode zakone na engleski, ali su svi veoma oprezni da se ograde da je jedino srpski tekst zakona merodavan, a prevod na engleski je samo radi informacije.
Opste usvojen ili uobicajen prevod je nesto drugo.
Slazem da opste usvojen prevod ne mora da bude najbolji moguci, da je jedino bitno da je razumljiv.
U najvecem delu engleskog govornog podrucja se kaze “land registry”, dok u Francuskoj je to katastar [http://www.cadastre.gouv.fr].
“State Survey and Cadastre Law” je sasvim razumljiv prevod, ali nije “zvanicni prevod” (nema snagu zakona) nego je “uobicajeni prevod”, koji nije zabranjeno menjati ako ciljana publika lakse razume neki drugi izraz.