Jul 16, 2010 09:48
14 yrs ago
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German term

Halsschachtel mit Schuber für Standard-Etui

German to English Tech/Engineering Mechanics / Mech Engineering luxury watches
This appears on a list of items available from stock (no further context).
What is a Halsschachtel?
Proposed translations (English)
3 box with slipcase
References
Halskastenschachtel

Discussion

meirs Jul 21, 2010:
Raised lips I don't know if "lips" are correct in a box context - but this is my mental picture in English.
Mark Harvey (asker) Jul 21, 2010:
Your explanation confirms what I guessed when I saw the picture. But in fact, I had to give some detail, as the stock list offers other types of box too. I ended up calling it a "box with flush-fitting lid and slipcase", which I think is sufficiently clear. At least I didn't make a wild guess and call the thing a "shoulder-bag", as a previous translator had done!

Thank you for the considerable time you have evidently given to my question.
Gudrun Maydorn (X) Jul 18, 2010:
Halsschachtel Mark, from your comment to my reference I conclude that the meaning of Halsschachtel is still not clear to you. To quote from meirs's great link "Das Edle an der Schachtel ist, dass es außen keinen fühlbaren Unterschied zwischen Deckel und Schachtel gibt." This is where the Hals comes in. You have a box consisting of inner (higher) and outer (lower) walls. The box without lid therefore has a neck, i.e. the higher/narrower inside walls that protrude above the outer ones. When the lid is put on, it sits flush with the outer wall of the box.

But I am sure that for translation purposes "box with slipcase" will be quite okay. If there is no short and common Enghlish expression, then giving an overly detailed description of the box would probably be overkill. After all, your customer's main aim is not the sale of the box but of the product that is inside!
Roland Nienerza Jul 16, 2010:
great find .
meirs Jul 16, 2010:
Roland Nienerza Jul 16, 2010:
never heard of such a word or Schachtel - and nothing is recorded of it in Google.

For all practical purposes it can hardly be anything else than a - admittedly curious - typo for "Holzschachtel".

Proposed translations

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box with slipcase

Vivisimod did find somethin and one site mentions it, quite clearly, mentionned either oas Halsschachtel or Halsskatenchachtel, with pictures besides. It is a high-class packing box slipcase [Schuber]
Please check the pictures on the following to have a better idea on what it might be http://www.lindner-feinkartonagen.de/Feinkartonagen-Luxuskar...

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Note added at 2 hrs (2010-07-16 11:58:13 GMT)
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my click was a bist hasty
Vivisimo [named also clusty.com] did find something, the following site which mentions it, quite clearly, either as Halsschachtel or Halsskastenchachtel, with pictures besides. It is a high-class packing box with slipcase [Schuber]
Please check the pictures on the following to have a better idea on what it might be
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3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you. I now know what it looks like, but not why it's so named. I shall have to ask an English-speaking manufacturer what he would call a box like that! I've given you 3 points. Can't give you 4 because I still don't know the English. And to think one reason I left teaching was so I would never again have to grade people's work, which I detest..."

Reference comments

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Reference:

Halskastenschachtel

Here is a picture. No idea what it is called in English.

http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.lindner-feinka...

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Note added at 4 Stunden (2010-07-16 14:48:04 GMT)
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Look at No 4.
Note from asker:
Thank you. Unfortunately, even this very clear picture gives no hint why the box is so-called. The manufacturer translates it as "neck box", but as, according to Google, no on else in the world uses this term, I have my doubts regarding its utility!
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