Feb 19, 2017 23:10
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German term

...mein merdrum.

German to English Art/Literary History Religious context
This is from Luther's "Tischreden" and appears as the last of the four lines that are often seen as one 4-line entity.
I'm doing this as a favor for someone working on a larger piece. Thus, must admit, I'm not much of a Luther expert. Would appreciate some insights from all the bright and learned brains out there.

Sau du musst dich lassen reiten
Und wol (wohl) Sporen zu beiden Seiten.
Du willst hon. ein Concilium
Ja dafür hab dir mein merdrum.
Proposed translations (English)
3 +2 human excrement

Discussion

Eleanore Strauss (asker) Feb 21, 2017:
Erzsebet: Thank you As indicated, appreciate all the reference material, but this is not a piece about Luther. The item was part of a larger topic I am not at liberty to mention. So no need to translate it all (I already did quite a bit)... and no need for more background info. Great enthusiasm... nice to see that still exists.
Eleanore Strauss (asker) Feb 20, 2017:
Thanks Erzsebet That's Elisabeth in Hungarian... ( which I fully understand)...Appreciate your creative contributions but this is strictly about communicating meaning. I wouldn't have the audacity to try and be a poet in portraying Luther's thoughts and words. And he didn't have much of a sense of humor.
Wendy Streitparth Feb 20, 2017:
Maybe it would be easier to find a rhyme with "human dung" rather than "human excrement" :
The pope is portrayed riding a sow and carrying a spiral of steaming dung in his open palm.
https://wp.nyu.edu/therevealer/2016/06/06/the-medium-of-refo...
Johanna Timm, PhD Feb 20, 2017:
the picture I just remembered some of Luther's "Kampfbilder" and the one with the pig is quite famous, that's how I knew where to search :-)

http://blog.sbb.berlin/tag/martin-luther/

Anyways, the Latin "merdum" is the more common spelling, so you were right on thinking of "merde"!
http://woerterbuchnetz.de/DWB/?sigle=DWB&mode=Gliederung&hit...
Eleanore Strauss (asker) Feb 20, 2017:
@Johanna That was really fast. I am assuming you know about this blog... I'm impressed.

Proposed translations

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37 mins
Selected

human excrement

‘Der Papst ist im Ornate abgebildet, wie er auf einer Sau reitet und mit der rechten Hand einen auf der linken Hand getragenen Haufen Menschenkot segnet, mit der Angabe: Papa dat concilium in Germania“
http://tinyurl.com/z6eoso5

The image above illustrates Luther’s views. It is the pope riding a sow with steaming excrement in one hand, while he gives a blessing with the other.

http://blogs.bu.edu/guidedhistory/jews-in-russia-and-eastern...

Context:
http://tinyurl.com/znh2atk
also:
http://tinyurl.com/z6wloyh

Note from asker:
Thank you! Interestingly, the first thing I thought of when I saw merdrum was the French word 'merde'.
Peer comment(s):

agree Ramey Rieger (X) : holy shit!
6 hrs
quite!!! Thanks, Ramey.
agree writeaway
9 hrs
thanks, writeaway:-)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you for the high-speed and thorough response. Great contribution and I learned a lot. Will contact you separately. Best, Elli "
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