Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
9-Monatszahlen
English translation:
figures for the first nine months/9M figures
Added to glossary by
Carmen Cross
Jul 2, 2007 19:19
17 yrs ago
German term
9-Monatszahlen
German to English
Bus/Financial
Accounting
Context:
9-Monatszahlen wie erwarter -- Kursziel auf 95 Euro angehoben
Die von [Name Unternehmens] vorgelegten 9-Monatszahlen entsprachen - bis auf den Umsatz - fast punktgenau den Erwartungen des Marktes und auch unseren Schätzungen:
9-Monatszahlen wie erwarter -- Kursziel auf 95 Euro angehoben
Die von [Name Unternehmens] vorgelegten 9-Monatszahlen entsprachen - bis auf den Umsatz - fast punktgenau den Erwartungen des Marktes und auch unseren Schätzungen:
Proposed translations
(English)
4 +7 | figures for the first nine months/9M figures | RobinB |
3 +3 | third quarter figures | Paul Cohen |
Change log
Jul 3, 2007 08:48: Steffen Walter changed "Field (specific)" from "Finance (general)" to "Accounting"
Proposed translations
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figures for the first nine months/9M figures
Unfortunately, things may not be quite so straightforward as they initially appear.
The "9-Monatszahlen" are *not* the figures for the third quarter of the FY, but the figures for the *first nine months* of the FY, i.e. the cumulative year-to-date figures at the end of the first nine months/end of third quarter. These are frequently abbreviated in English (especially in analyst reports, that sort of thing) to "9M" figures.
Of course these figures *include* the Q3 (or: 3Q) figures, but they also include the Q1+2 (1+2Q) figures as well.
German companies that publish quarterly interim reports (mainly companies listed in the Prime Standard) include in their reports on the first nine months:
1) the cumulative YTD figures with the corresponding comparatives (either the previous year's cumulative Q1-3 or the previous FY year-end figures)
2) the Q3 figures with the year-on-year comparatives (previous year's Q3)
It can sometimes be difficult to separate the two sets of figures in poorly written German 9M reports, but that's part-and-parcel of translating...
The "9-Monatszahlen" are *not* the figures for the third quarter of the FY, but the figures for the *first nine months* of the FY, i.e. the cumulative year-to-date figures at the end of the first nine months/end of third quarter. These are frequently abbreviated in English (especially in analyst reports, that sort of thing) to "9M" figures.
Of course these figures *include* the Q3 (or: 3Q) figures, but they also include the Q1+2 (1+2Q) figures as well.
German companies that publish quarterly interim reports (mainly companies listed in the Prime Standard) include in their reports on the first nine months:
1) the cumulative YTD figures with the corresponding comparatives (either the previous year's cumulative Q1-3 or the previous FY year-end figures)
2) the Q3 figures with the year-on-year comparatives (previous year's Q3)
It can sometimes be difficult to separate the two sets of figures in poorly written German 9M reports, but that's part-and-parcel of translating...
Peer comment(s):
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Jane Luther
: You are, of course, quite right, although I tend to see Q3 figures as the results 1 Jan - 30 Sept, but that's probably because that's the way one of my clients looks at the world...
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That's also why most German companies make a distinction between the Q3 and 9M figures!
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Andrea Hauer
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Paul Cohen
: Good point, Robin. However, I also see third quarter figures as a cumulative result. // Okay, Robin, I'm convinced. It's incredibly simple math. Q3 is not the same as 9M!
3 hrs
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No, sorry, Q3 specifically does *not* include Q1+2 figures! It's not a question of "ignoring", it's one of maths. The Q1-3 figures are not the "Q3 figures", but the 9M figures. This is *incredibly* basic stuff....
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Trudy Peters
: To Paul: isn't that what Robin said?
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Tatjana Dujmic
: to be on the safe side and avoid misunderstandings I'd also rather use the "9M" expression
11 hrs
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Steffen Walter
: Especially with your answer to Paul's reasoning.
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:-)
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Cetacea
: One should never answer or agree on answers to any questions only half awake... Of course, you are absolutely right.
15 hrs
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You mean, as opposed to translating half awake (like most of us do)? :-)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Danke!"
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third quarter figures
Seems fairly straightforward to me...
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Note added at 5 mins (2007-07-02 19:24:57 GMT)
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Perhaps with a hyphen between "third" and "quarter":
"When the company reports third-quarter figures tomorrow, these are expected to show that sales rose about 28% compared with a year earlier, to around $1.8bn."
http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,3604,1599010,00.html
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Note added at 7 mins (2007-07-02 19:26:46 GMT)
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"The company reports third-quarter figures on Tuesday. Management can expect some tough questions."
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/article466814...
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Note added at 5 mins (2007-07-02 19:24:57 GMT)
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Perhaps with a hyphen between "third" and "quarter":
"When the company reports third-quarter figures tomorrow, these are expected to show that sales rose about 28% compared with a year earlier, to around $1.8bn."
http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,3604,1599010,00.html
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Note added at 7 mins (2007-07-02 19:26:46 GMT)
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"The company reports third-quarter figures on Tuesday. Management can expect some tough questions."
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/article466814...
Peer comment(s):
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Jane Luther
: yes, or third quarter results or Q3 results
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Thanks, Jane. Yes, results is another common way of expressing this.
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Serena Hiller
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agree |
Kathi Stock
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Steffen Walter
: Unfortunately not - see Robin's answer (and also his reply to your peer comment).
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Yes, you learn something new every day. ;-)
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