Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
cuir végétal
English translation:
vegetable-tanned leather
Added to glossary by
Sandra Petch
Nov 10, 2009 17:55
15 yrs ago
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French term
cuir végétal
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Textiles / Clothing / Fashion
It's for straps on sandals.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +1 | vegetable-tanned leather |
Sandra Petch
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| 5 +1 | Vegan Leather |
tbperitz
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| 4 +1 | synthetic leather |
Travelin Ann
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| 3 +1 | Well....vegetal leather see examples |
Cervin
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| 3 -1 | patent leather |
Verginia Ophof
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Change log
Nov 13, 2009 08:57: Sandra Petch Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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vegetable-tanned leather
http://www.ctc.fr/forum/reponses.php3?sujet=1013
Le cuir végétal : Les produits utilisés pour tanner un cuir (c'est à dire le rendre imputrescible) sont appellés tannins. Ils peuvent être de nature synthétique (résines polymères), minérale (sels métalliques) ou végétal (certaines écorces, galles...). Dans ce dernier cas, quelque soit la provenance de la peau (veau, vache, mouton, porc), on parle de cuir végétal. Un cuir tanné uniquement avec des tannins végétaux est un cuir généralement assez raide (cuir à semelle).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leather
Vegetable-tanned leather is tanned using tannin and other ingredients found in vegetable matter, tree bark, and other such sources. It is supple and brown in color, with the exact shade depending on the mix of chemicals and the color of the skin. It is the only form of leather suitable for use in leather carving or stamping. Vegetable-tanned leather is not stable in water; it tends to discolor, and if left to soak and then dry it will shrink and become less supple and harder. In hot water, it will shrink drastically and partly gelatinize, becoming rigid and eventually brittle. Boiled leather is an example of this where the leather has been hardened by being immersed in hot water, or in boiled wax or similar substances. Historically, it was occasionally used as armor after hardening, and it has also been used for book binding.
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http://www.4hides.com/Veg Tan.html
VEGETABLE-TANNED LEATHER is tanned using tree bark and various other plants. It comes in various thicknesses and colors. Characterized by its firmness, strength and lack of elasticity, vegetable-tanned leather is used for a variety of purposes, including crafts (e.g., leather carving, leather stamping, etc.), belts, saddles, harnesses, holsters, shoe soles and some luggage.
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Sorry, just saw this is in the discussion box which I didn't consult before posting. I work a lot for a major French "maroquinier" and knew the answer instantly and, as you seemed to be going off-track with vegan leather, posted right away!
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Note added at 2 days15 hrs (2009-11-13 08:56:29 GMT) Post-grading
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My pleasure!
Le cuir végétal : Les produits utilisés pour tanner un cuir (c'est à dire le rendre imputrescible) sont appellés tannins. Ils peuvent être de nature synthétique (résines polymères), minérale (sels métalliques) ou végétal (certaines écorces, galles...). Dans ce dernier cas, quelque soit la provenance de la peau (veau, vache, mouton, porc), on parle de cuir végétal. Un cuir tanné uniquement avec des tannins végétaux est un cuir généralement assez raide (cuir à semelle).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leather
Vegetable-tanned leather is tanned using tannin and other ingredients found in vegetable matter, tree bark, and other such sources. It is supple and brown in color, with the exact shade depending on the mix of chemicals and the color of the skin. It is the only form of leather suitable for use in leather carving or stamping. Vegetable-tanned leather is not stable in water; it tends to discolor, and if left to soak and then dry it will shrink and become less supple and harder. In hot water, it will shrink drastically and partly gelatinize, becoming rigid and eventually brittle. Boiled leather is an example of this where the leather has been hardened by being immersed in hot water, or in boiled wax or similar substances. Historically, it was occasionally used as armor after hardening, and it has also been used for book binding.
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Note added at 14 hrs (2009-11-11 08:21:00 GMT)
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http://www.4hides.com/Veg Tan.html
VEGETABLE-TANNED LEATHER is tanned using tree bark and various other plants. It comes in various thicknesses and colors. Characterized by its firmness, strength and lack of elasticity, vegetable-tanned leather is used for a variety of purposes, including crafts (e.g., leather carving, leather stamping, etc.), belts, saddles, harnesses, holsters, shoe soles and some luggage.
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Note added at 14 hrs (2009-11-11 08:26:21 GMT)
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Sorry, just saw this is in the discussion box which I didn't consult before posting. I work a lot for a major French "maroquinier" and knew the answer instantly and, as you seemed to be going off-track with vegan leather, posted right away!
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Note added at 2 days15 hrs (2009-11-13 08:56:29 GMT) Post-grading
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My pleasure!
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Claire Chapman
: http://www.iultcs.org/glossary/v.htm
1 day 9 hrs
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Thanks Claire. That's a good link.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks for confirming!"
+1
2 mins
Travelin Ann
Native in English
Works in field
Timely translations
Native in: English
Works in: French to English, English, English to French
Related KudoZ points
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21
synthetic leather
but a very specific, for "vegan shoes"
no cruelty, no animal by-products, etc.
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http://www.mooshoes.com/
no cruelty, no animal by-products, etc.
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http://www.mooshoes.com/
Peer comment(s):
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Zoe Perry
11 mins
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thanks, but apparently not - see our discussion
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| agree |
Dr Lofthouse
: or 'artificial/imitation leather'
54 mins
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Thanks, but see discussion - we have determined it is not
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| disagree |
Sandra Petch
: As you say yourself :-)
2 days 13 hrs
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8 mins
Vegan Leather
The term "vegan leather" is simply a neologism for the "man-made" leather we have known for years. Animal-free, it is the choice of many animal loving fashionistas. The term refers to several materials such as:
* Vegetan: This is a microfibre material that is specifically designed and used as an animal-friendly leather substitute.
* Lorica: This material is made out of several different microfibers. Sidi, an Italian motorcycle company uses it a lot.
* Birko-Flor: This is what eco-icon Birkenstock uses. It’s made out of acrylic and polyamide felt fibres. There are two kinds — the kind you find on normal Birks and a kind that looks like pleather.
* Birkibuc: Another Birkenstock baby. It’s made out of the same stuff, but looks and feels like nubuck leather.
* PVC: Finally, a term you should be familiar with! Good for animals. Not so good for environment.
* Kydex: This is an acrylic-PVC alloy. It’s produce by Kleerdex, a manufacturing company.
* Vegetan: This is a microfibre material that is specifically designed and used as an animal-friendly leather substitute.
* Lorica: This material is made out of several different microfibers. Sidi, an Italian motorcycle company uses it a lot.
* Birko-Flor: This is what eco-icon Birkenstock uses. It’s made out of acrylic and polyamide felt fibres. There are two kinds — the kind you find on normal Birks and a kind that looks like pleather.
* Birkibuc: Another Birkenstock baby. It’s made out of the same stuff, but looks and feels like nubuck leather.
* PVC: Finally, a term you should be familiar with! Good for animals. Not so good for environment.
* Kydex: This is an acrylic-PVC alloy. It’s produce by Kleerdex, a manufacturing company.
Example sentence:
Being an animal lover, Diana Rigg's (Mrs. Peel) catsuits for the Avengers were made of vegan leather.
Peer comment(s):
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philgoddard
: Végétalien is the French for vegan.
14 mins
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You are correct, philgoddard, and as such I recind my response.
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11 mins
Verginia Ophof
Belize
Belize
Native in English
Belize
Near Native Proficiency in Source langua
Native in: English
Works in: Portuguese to English, Dutch to English, French to English
Related KudoZ points
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26
patent leather
suggestion
Peer comment(s):
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philgoddard
: No, this is real leather that's hard and highly polished.
11 mins
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41 mins
Well....vegetal leather see examples
http://www.youthxchange.net/main/vegetalleather.asp
XXX Project started as a project for developing local communities of rubber tappers in Amazonia and gave birth to the XXX vegetal leather. By working to develop, produce, and commercialise the innovative wild rubber product, the project contributes to improving the quality of life in rubber tapping communities. XXX produces apparel and home products made fromXXX®.
products: XXXis sold as either raw material or manufactured into products such as purses, bags, furniture, or other accessories
http://www.moroso.it/home_moroso.php?n=18&l=en
Vegetal Leather
Its land of origin is Acre, a savage region along the boundaries between Bolivia, Brazil and Peru, where the "seringueira" trees grow spontaneously in an exceptional and fragile context of biodiversity.
From these plants, the native populations extract a resin called "pela" which is then spread on cotton canvas while smoked on shrub fire.
At this point they are left drying in the sun. The sheets obtained are one different from the other.
This activity of the "Seringueiros", as the area's inhabitants are called, follows the evolution of the seasons.
Those who choose a Moroso product in authentic vegetal leather:
- know that there are many reasons to choose the softness, resistance and sensuality of the authentic vegetal leather 100% natural;
- know the pleasure of looking at intense colours that recall the endless shades of the rain forest, and that change with time, just as we change;
- are aware of supporting with their purchase the indigenous populations, first link in a chain that starts from a plant to arrive in your home or in your offices. A vital chain, which must not be broken.
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Sorry, I should have included a French expalnation too:
http://www.taygra.fr/tecido-da-floresta-cuir-vegetal-ecologi...
XXX lance des chaussures éthiques 100 % artisanales, utilisant des matières innovantes et 100% écologiques, et vous présente en avant-première le CUIR VEGETAL ou "TISSU DE LA FORÊT", issu de réserves extractives d'Amazonie du Sud, dans le plus strict respect de l'homme de et de son environnement. Pour visionner les films sur la fabrication artisanale de ce matériaux, cliquer sur les images suivantes gra-tissu-latex.html
XXX Project started as a project for developing local communities of rubber tappers in Amazonia and gave birth to the XXX vegetal leather. By working to develop, produce, and commercialise the innovative wild rubber product, the project contributes to improving the quality of life in rubber tapping communities. XXX produces apparel and home products made fromXXX®.
products: XXXis sold as either raw material or manufactured into products such as purses, bags, furniture, or other accessories
http://www.moroso.it/home_moroso.php?n=18&l=en
Vegetal Leather
Its land of origin is Acre, a savage region along the boundaries between Bolivia, Brazil and Peru, where the "seringueira" trees grow spontaneously in an exceptional and fragile context of biodiversity.
From these plants, the native populations extract a resin called "pela" which is then spread on cotton canvas while smoked on shrub fire.
At this point they are left drying in the sun. The sheets obtained are one different from the other.
This activity of the "Seringueiros", as the area's inhabitants are called, follows the evolution of the seasons.
Those who choose a Moroso product in authentic vegetal leather:
- know that there are many reasons to choose the softness, resistance and sensuality of the authentic vegetal leather 100% natural;
- know the pleasure of looking at intense colours that recall the endless shades of the rain forest, and that change with time, just as we change;
- are aware of supporting with their purchase the indigenous populations, first link in a chain that starts from a plant to arrive in your home or in your offices. A vital chain, which must not be broken.
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Note added at 3 hrs (2009-11-10 21:00:11 GMT)
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Sorry, I should have included a French expalnation too:
http://www.taygra.fr/tecido-da-floresta-cuir-vegetal-ecologi...
XXX lance des chaussures éthiques 100 % artisanales, utilisant des matières innovantes et 100% écologiques, et vous présente en avant-première le CUIR VEGETAL ou "TISSU DE LA FORÊT", issu de réserves extractives d'Amazonie du Sud, dans le plus strict respect de l'homme de et de son environnement. Pour visionner les films sur la fabrication artisanale de ce matériaux, cliquer sur les images suivantes gra-tissu-latex.html
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Vegetable-tanned leather is tanned using tannin and other ingredients found in vegetable matter, tree bark, and other such sources. It is supple and brown in color, with the exact shade depending on the mix of chemicals and the color of the skin. It is the only form of leather suitable for use in leather carving or stamping. Vegetable-tanned leather is not stable in water; it tends to discolor, and if left to soak and then dry it will shrink and become less supple and harder. In hot water, it will shrink drastically and partly gelatinize, becoming rigid and eventually brittle. Boiled leather is an example of this where the leather has been hardened by being immersed in hot water, or in boiled wax or similar substances. Historically, it was occasionally used as armor after hardening, and it has also been used for book binding.
I think this confirms vegetable-dyed leather.
Les sandales compensées. Brides croisées en cuir végétal et cuir
vernis.
It's not patent leather, as that's 'cuir vernis'.
http://vegetabledyedleather.com/