Nov 4, 2005 18:34
18 yrs ago
French term

vertiges

French to English Other Textiles / Clothing / Fashion
On appelle vertiges les petits biais cousus froncés comme sur Lison
Does anyone have any idea what this could be in English?
Thanks
Proposed translations (English)
2 piping??
3 +2 frills
3 +1 ruffles

Discussion

Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X) Nov 5, 2005:
if you look at Rachel's pictures this stuff is Frilly Bias Trim to the top..no bindings...that would be S&M...that's a joke...:)
chaplin Nov 5, 2005:
cela a l'air d'un type de jabot fait de plusieurs volants alors en anglais jabot or frill
Rachel Fell Nov 4, 2005:
OK - yes, they're in the wrong direction, etc., I know;)
suezen (asker) Nov 4, 2005:
Hello Rachel ... I can't use ruffles ... they come in all over the place everywhere else and they're not at all the same (volants, for example). our picture is not bad at all, except that the trim is gathered lengthewise, parallel with the buttons of the shirt :-)
suezen (asker) Nov 4, 2005:
No, it's not ruffles ...there are plenty of those elsewhere. Actually I like trim ... or trimming. That sounds good :-)
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X) Nov 4, 2005:
vertiges: ruffle bias-cut inserts..so the there is no trim..the insert ruffles are biais cut..that's it..that's your It..the ruffles..gees woman..:)
suezen (asker) Nov 4, 2005:
Don't know how to get a picture to you. That would be a nice feature for ProZ, wouldn't it?
I'll try to describe it again. It looks like a sleeveless shirt top with a plunging V-neck and collar, buttoned down the front. On both sides, running down from the collar and over the boobs almost to the bottom of the shirt, you have these 'vertiges'like a thick open-ended necklace .
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X) Nov 4, 2005:
yes but it is Gathered? They are making the empire cut with a Trim below which the material has been sewn in gathers [or gathered] into the bias-cut trim...
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X) Nov 4, 2005:
the problem here is to get a basic picture of the thing; it;s either empire cut with a trim below the boobs..or it is made of strips of cloth cut on the biais...cheers..without a picture, that's it
suezen (asker) Nov 4, 2005:
Yes, it's very frilly and overloaded ... looks a bit like what you put round the bottom of a lampshade I think ... not really my style!
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X) Nov 4, 2005:
i see it suezen..an probably that "empire look" below the boobs, there is a "binding"..only it's not called that..anyway, that is gathered with tucks..or tuck gathered or gathered
Rachel Fell Nov 4, 2005:
It sounds a bit like those slightly frilly swirly rose-like decoration motifs found these days on tops and skirts - will seek an e.g.
suezen (asker) Nov 4, 2005:
Hi Jane. Sorry, it's for a top/shirt. So far I have somthing like gathered narrow bias binding ... (for the next question too)
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X) Nov 4, 2005:
in English, we say a skirt is cut on the biais..so the biais has to go with what the thing is...what is the thing here? skirt, dress..or what?
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X) Nov 4, 2005:
what piece of clothing or house decoration is this for?

Proposed translations

1 day 2 hrs
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piping??

I found another picture here:

http://promod.vetements-de-mode.com/le-tee-shirt-drap-en-r-s...

and to me this looks like piping...or gathering...or gathers. But I'm probably way off! :-)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks you so much everyone. Charlotte's picture was spot on and the definition for piping is 'thin cord covered in fabric and inserted along the length of a garment or seam for decoration'. But I really appreciate your help Ségolene and Rachel."
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42 mins

ruffles

It is impossible to find but I would advice looking od snapfashion site
Peer comment(s):

agree Rachel Fell : I was going to put that when I saw you'd already done so - there may be other terms, but that's what's used on the link with pic. I poted
31 mins
merci quel casse-tête
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48 mins

frills

or ruffles, as per Segolene
this kind of thing (the detail, not whole style)?
http://www.choiceforyou.co.uk/psnlnet/product.aspx?sid=P3DWC...

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Note added at 1 hr 12 mins (2005-11-04 19:46:51 GMT)
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http://www.choiceforyou.co.uk/psnlnet/product.aspx?sid=P3DWC...
Women's Ruffle Camisole
Bias cut sleeveless top with frill detail. Fully lined. Washable. Polyester.


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Note added at 1 day 2 hrs 49 mins (2005-11-05 21:23:32 GMT)
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http://www.kaleidoscope.co.uk/web/main/ProductDisplay.asp?LP...
even here it's called a frill, though it's not much of one, but looks a bit like the description

or a ruffle
http://www.kaleidoscope.co.uk/web/main/ProductList.asp?LP=Pr...


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Note added at 1 day 2 hrs 59 mins (2005-11-05 21:34:13 GMT)
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http://fashion.abcaz.co.uk/5_1412502/blouses-and-shirts-for-...

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Note added at 1 day 3 hrs 10 mins (2005-11-05 21:44:55 GMT) Post-grading
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http://fashion.abcaz.co.uk/5_1412502/blouses-and-shirts-for-...
Peer comment(s):

agree Claire Chapman : with frill - http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=fri...
13 hrs
Thanks GWC- Claire
agree Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X) : yes and there are not Bindings...sorry to belabor it but really...these tops don't have bindings...though they do have Frilly Trim...
1 day 33 mins
Thannk you Jane - perhaps what's being referred to is bias binding, as I've seen clothes with this sort of decration and the "frill/ruffle" is sometimes made of bias binding material, thin cotton
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