Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

fourchette

English translation:

fork

Added to glossary by Wendy Streitparth
Nov 7, 2019 00:03
4 yrs ago
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French term

fourchette

Non-PRO French to English Other Cooking / Culinary Classification of Restaurant
Classification du restaurant de l’établissement
Le nombre de fourchettes induit des exigences particulières en termes de réglementation
Ex. si 1 ou 2 fourchettes : la surface de la cuisine ne doit pas être inférieure à 55% de la surface de la salle à manger si moins de 30 couverts.
Espace réglementaire en fonction de la classification de l’établissement
1 fourchette : 1m2 / couvert ; 50 % de la clientèle doit pouvoir être servie en même temps
2 fourchettes : 1,5m2 / couvert ; 70 % de la clientèle doit pouvoir être servie en même temps

The term "fourchette" cannot be translated in this context by "fork" or "range" and I'm not sure I can leave it in French with inverted commas.
Thanking you in advance for your help.
Change log

Nov 7, 2019 15:29: Jennifer White changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"

Nov 9, 2019 09:03: Wendy Streitparth Created KOG entry

Nov 9, 2019 09:03: Wendy Streitparth changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/1219907">Wendy Streitparth's</a> old entry - "fourchette"" to ""forks""

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PRO (3): Wolf Draeger, Cyril Tollari, Julie Barber

Non-PRO (3): Rachel Fell, Nikki Scott-Despaigne, Jennifer White

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Discussion

Wolf Draeger Nov 7, 2019:
@Nikki For undertakers, maybe a flame emoticon for cremation? Since we're running out of burial land!
Nikki Scott-Despaigne Nov 7, 2019:
Fork Although we probably associate stars with the nature and (mostly) with the quality of service, the fork symbol is out there too. Let's call a fork a fork, indeed! And when it comes to spades, then perhaps they could be used for rating undertakers? ;-)
Tony M Nov 7, 2019:
@ Asker Why not 'fork'? These symbols are often used (and displayed), as Melissa says, like stars, and Logis de France uses 'cocottes' ('marmites'?) ('casseroles' or 'stew-pots'), or 'cheminées' for hotel accommodation ('fireplaces'); Gault & Millau awards 'toques'
Melissa McMahon Nov 7, 2019:
Country? It looks like a ranking system similar to hotels and "stars" that applies in some French African countries. Depending on who and what the translation is for, it might well be suitable to leave it in French inside quotation marks, or "fork" inside quotation marks.

Proposed translations

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forks

The setting, service and comfort of the restaurant get a different rating: the fork, ranging from 1 to 5 it depends on many different factors, service, crowding, decor, atmosphere, wine selection, every detail including the waiter’s greeting and the arrangement of the glassware on the table. The number of forks expresses the “quality of the experience” for the diners, regardless of what they eat and drink.

Naturally, to be even taken into consideration by the very strict Michelin inspectors to be included in the famous guide is a great achievement, the number of forks received indicates the level of excellence accomplished amongst the best restaurants.

I am pleased to say that our little restaurant has been selected by the Michelin guide and has had two forks for a few years now.

http://www.ristorantealex.eu/wordpress/stars-and-forks-miche...

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The Tiroler Jagdstuben restaurant at the 5-star superior TOP Hotel Hochgurgl is one of Tyrol’s best restaurants with 3 forks and 90 points awarded by the Falstaff restaurant guide 2019.
https://www.tophotelhochgurgl.com/en/falstaff-restaurant-gui...

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(Picture of three forks) Our highest rated fine dining restaurants
https://www.gamberorosso.it/en/restaurants/
Note from asker:
Thank you so Wendy, for your timely answer, the most helpful so far, but I must wait 24 hours before submitting, to comply with proz team's wishes. Best, Carolyn
Peer comment(s):

agree Tony M : Yes! What else?!
5 mins
Thanks, Tony. You were there anyway!
agree Wolf Draeger
30 mins
Vielen Dank, Wolf
agree Philippe Barré
1 hr
Merci, Philippe!
agree B D Finch
1 hr
Thanks, Barbara
agree Rachel Fell
2 hrs
Thank you, Rachel
agree writeaway : A star is a star, a fork is a fork. Hard to imagine what else to use for the image of a fork...
2 hrs
Many thanks, writeaway
agree Nikki Scott-Despaigne
3 hrs
Thank you, Nikki
agree SafeTex : yes, the forks replace stars here
3 hrs
Thank you, SafeTex
agree elizabeth_med
5 hrs
Many thanks, Elizabeth
agree Cyril Tollari
12 hrs
Many thanks, Cyril
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Perfect, Wendy, I was able to send my translation in on time, thanks to your speedy answer, but I waited 24 hours before voting for your answer to respect Proz guidelines. "
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4 hrs

Seating guidelines

From my understanding.
Hope it will help
Note from asker:
Thank you very much, it turned out to be "Fork", as Wendy indicated, it's a way of rating restaurants, like stars for hotels. Hope all is well on the Ivory Coast! Best regards.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Tony M : Really can't see this working on say a sign, or a restaurant descriptions: "This restaurant has been awarded 2 Seating Guidelines"??
5 hrs
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9 hrs

Level

I would just call it a "level 1" or "level 2" restaurant. I've never heard of this type of classification of a restaurant in any English speaking country, so best to use a neutral word. People should then be able to understand that this is referring to a type of classification.

Good luck!
Example sentence:

A level 1 or 2 restaurant must have a kitchen that is at least 55% the size of the dining room...

Note from asker:
Thank you very much, I was going to resort to your "neutral term" as a sensible solution, until Wendy confirmed that "Forks" are used for rating restaurants just as "Stars" are for hotels. It certainly reassured me to see that other translators were unaware of the fork system, I didn't feel such a dimwit after all for being flummoxed by forks. Best regards!
Peer comment(s):

neutral Tony M : Again, I really can't see this working on say a sign, or a restaurant descriptions: "This restaurant has been awarded 2 Levels"??
50 mins
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+1
1 day 12 hrs

forks (a pictogram measure of quality)

I feel you need to use "forks" as that is what will be displayed, but you could add the explanation in parentheses.
Note from asker:
Good idea, thank you very much, I did add an explanation in brackets: Restaurants may be awarded 1, 2 or 3 Forks by gourmet guides N.B. The number of Forks induces special regulatory requirements e.g. If rated 1 or 2 Forks: the kitchen surface must not be less than 55% of the dining room surface if less than 30 place settings ... Regulatory space according to the classification of the establishment (i.e. number of Forks awarded) N.B. If rated 1 Fork: 1m2 / place setting; it must be possible to serve 50 % of the clientele at the same time ...
Peer comment(s):

agree Yolanda Broad
42 mins
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Reference comments

10 hrs
Reference:

Michelin étoiles, bib gourmand et fourchettes

Devilishly hard to find anything on those slippery Michelin fourchettes—well done to Wendy for her 1st EN ref—here's something in FR to back it up (from the 1st link below):

« Les étoiles (ou macarons) récompensent les meilleurs restaurants gastronomiques de l'année mais il existe d'autres distinctions.

Le "Bib gourmand" est attribué lorsque l'établissement propose un repas soigné à prix modéré (entrée, plat, dessert pour 31 euros ou moins en province et 35 euros à Paris). Tous ces restaurants sont répertoriés dans le guide des « Bonnes petites tables ».

Si ces récompenses jugent la qualité dans l'assiette, il existe également les "fourchettes". Elles évaluent le cadre du restaurant. Allant de une à cinq, elles peuvent être noires ou rouges. La plus petite distinction étant une fourchette noire (standing simple) et la plus haute, cinq fourchettes rouges (standing exceptionnel ayant du charme et du caractère). »

So yeah, setting & comfort, pretty much. Worth forking out for...? :-)

The 2nd link below relates to the spacing of tables & places, which might help Asker link the fourchettes to room and layout in a restaurant.
Note from asker:
Thank you so much for your very helpful info, and I loved your joke "worth forking out for"!!! That cheered me up no end, kept my morale high as I rushed to deliver by the deadline. I really must take myself out more often, then I'd know more about such things!
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Nikki Scott-Despaigne
2 hrs
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