Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
rely upon
French translation:
s´appuyer sur / s´en remettre à nos services
Added to glossary by
joannaadamczyk
Jul 23, 2011 15:09
13 yrs ago
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English term
Poland
rely upon
English to French
Law/Patents
Law (general)
law firm's retainer language
Hello,
I'm translating into French the general terms and conditions of business of a law firm and have problems translating the verb "rely upon" in the following sentence:
“Associated Person” means any person who is not our client in relation to the Retainer but who we agree shall be entitled to rely upon or receive our services in relation to the Retainer.
How would you translate it?
Thank you in advance!
I'm translating into French the general terms and conditions of business of a law firm and have problems translating the verb "rely upon" in the following sentence:
“Associated Person” means any person who is not our client in relation to the Retainer but who we agree shall be entitled to rely upon or receive our services in relation to the Retainer.
How would you translate it?
Thank you in advance!
Proposed translations
(French)
| 4 +1 | s´appuyer sur / s´en remettre à nos services |
Ellen Kraus
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| 4 +3 | compter sur nous |
Sylvie Chartier
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| 4 +1 | de recourir à |
Patrick Chalfine
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| 4 | faire appel à |
Peter LEGUIE
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Proposed translations
+1
3 hrs
Ellen Kraus
Austria
Austria
Specializes in field
Austria
more than thirty years of experience
Native in: German 
Works in: Greek to German, English to German, Greek to English, and 5 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
89
Selected
s´appuyer sur / s´en remettre à nos services
I´d suggest
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "that was a difficult choice because I think the other proposals are almost as good, except for "compter sur" maybe... Thank you very much!"
+3
13 mins
Sylvie Chartier
Canada
Canada
Native in French
Works in field
Canada
30+ years experience, Trados user
Native in: French (Variants: Standard-France, Canadian) 
Works in: English to French, French
Related KudoZ points
:
27
compter sur nous
Ou se fier à nous pour...
Note from asker:
| These would be the natural translation of "rely upon" but in this context "rely upon our services" means that the Associated Person is authorised to make decisions, transact business etc. on the basis of those services (e.g. a legal opinion) and then, if a problem arises (e.g. the authorities require more tax to be paid), that person will use those services to justify its actions. Would "compter sur nos services"/"se fier à nos services" work in this context? |
| ou peut-etre pourrait-on dire "se prévaloir de nos services"??? |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
AllegroTrans
: se fier à nous pour...
8 mins
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Merci!
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| agree |
gilbertlu
8 mins
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Merci!
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| agree |
Gabriella Bertelmann
: agree
5 hrs
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Merci !
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| agree |
GILLES MEUNIER
12 hrs
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Merci Gilles
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| disagree |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: "compter sur nous" shifts the emphasis away from the meaning of the original which accentuates reliance upon services and not the individuals providing them. Also "compter sur nous" is too familiar in register for terms and conditions.
16 hrs
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| neutral |
Giunia Totaro
: As Nikki says...
3 days 17 hrs
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4 hrs
Peter LEGUIE
Native in English
&
French
Specializes in field
Expertise and reliability
Native in: French , English
Works in: French to English, English to French
Related KudoZ points
:
36
faire appel à
Permet de conserver la syntaxe initiale (mais ce n'est pas indispensable).
+1
1 day 3 hrs
Patrick Chalfine
Native in French
Works in field
30 years experience make the difference
Native in: French
Works in: English to French, Hebrew to French, French
de recourir à
...qui est en droit de recourir et de recevoir nos services...
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Note added at 1 jour16 heures (2011-07-25 07:33:49 GMT)
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Recourir est à comprendre dans le sens de "utiliser" les services, par exemple à l'intention d'autres personnes
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Note added at 1 jour16 heures (2011-07-25 07:33:49 GMT)
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Recourir est à comprendre dans le sens de "utiliser" les services, par exemple à l'intention d'autres personnes
Discussion
PS : Et du coup, on peut garder l'ordre d'origine : "se prévaloir ou bénéficier de nos services".
PS : Mais il faut inclure "shall be entitled to" dans la réflexion pour trouver la formule idéale, bien entendu.