Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
currant/berry
French translation:
berry = general word / currant = specific varieties
Added to glossary by
Florence Evans
Apr 11, 2006 12:22
18 yrs ago
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English term
currant/berry
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Education / Pedagogy
Could someone explain to me the difference between a currant and a berry, or more exactly why do we use "currant" for some specific fruits and "berry" for others.
It was a question asked by my pupils and I was unable to answer it.
Thanks for your help.
It was a question asked by my pupils and I was unable to answer it.
Thanks for your help.
Proposed translations
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| 4 | berry = general word / currant = specific varieties |
Tony M
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| 3 +2 | se below |
PFB (X)
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| 5 | groseille et baie |
Drmanu49
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| 3 | différents types de fruits |
briski
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Proposed translations
15 mins
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berry = general word / currant = specific varieties
According to OED, 'berry' refers to any small juicy globular or ovate fruit not having a stone (in earlier use, also a grape)
whereas a currant is either a type of dried grape, or the small round edible berry of certain shrubs of the genus Ribes
That solves a mystery that has always puzzled me!
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Note added at 17 mins (2006-04-11 12:39:23 GMT)
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So as Drmanu so rightly gos on to say, currant = groseille (OR raisin de Corinthe when it's the dried grape variety), and berry = baie (or sometimes I guess just 'fruit'?)
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Note added at 29 mins (2006-04-11 12:51:45 GMT) Post-grading
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Florence, I don't quite understand your comment?
whereas a currant is either a type of dried grape, or the small round edible berry of certain shrubs of the genus Ribes
That solves a mystery that has always puzzled me!
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Note added at 17 mins (2006-04-11 12:39:23 GMT)
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So as Drmanu so rightly gos on to say, currant = groseille (OR raisin de Corinthe when it's the dried grape variety), and berry = baie (or sometimes I guess just 'fruit'?)
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Note added at 29 mins (2006-04-11 12:51:45 GMT) Post-grading
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Florence, I don't quite understand your comment?
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you so much Tony, but redcurrant and blackcurrant can not be dried. But your answer helped.
Thank you."
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5 mins
se below
berry [ @berN ]
1 noun
baie f
currant
1 noun
a
Botany = fruit groseille f
also currant bush groseillier m
blackcurrant , redcurrant
b
= dried fruit raisin m de Corinthe
2 compounds
currant bun noun : petit pain m aux raisins
currant loaf noun : pain m aux raisins
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Note added at 6 mins (2006-04-11 12:28:35 GMT)
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also cassis (currant)
1 noun
baie f
currant
1 noun
a
Botany = fruit groseille f
also currant bush groseillier m
blackcurrant , redcurrant
b
= dried fruit raisin m de Corinthe
2 compounds
currant bun noun : petit pain m aux raisins
currant loaf noun : pain m aux raisins
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Note added at 6 mins (2006-04-11 12:28:35 GMT)
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also cassis (currant)
Peer comment(s):
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Brigitte Albert (X)
: Exactly. The only thing to change is to write these two words separately: black currant and red currant.
5 mins
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Yes, definitely. Thanks
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| agree |
Pierre POUSSIN
6 mins
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Merci !
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14 mins
groseille et baie
groseille can be an adjective as in tomate groseille à grappes
it can also be used for dried currant raisin de Corinthe
Berry can also be used to mean small fruit.
it can also be used for dried currant raisin de Corinthe
Berry can also be used to mean small fruit.
16 mins
différents types de fruits
berry
• noun (pl. berries) 1 a small roundish juicy fruit without a stone. 2 Botany a fruit that has its seeds enclosed in a fleshy pulp, e.g. a banana or tomato
currant
• a dried fruit made from a small seedless variety of grape.
a shrub producing small edible black, red, or white berries.
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Note added at 18 mins (2006-04-11 12:41:17 GMT)
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http://www.snv.jussieu.fr/bmedia/Fruits/charnu.htm
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Note added at 19 mins (2006-04-11 12:42:10 GMT)
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http://www.snv.jussieu.fr/bmedia/Fruits/complexe.htm
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Note added at 22 mins (2006-04-11 12:45:10 GMT) Post-grading
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http://www.infovisual.info/01/035_fr.html
• noun (pl. berries) 1 a small roundish juicy fruit without a stone. 2 Botany a fruit that has its seeds enclosed in a fleshy pulp, e.g. a banana or tomato
currant
• a dried fruit made from a small seedless variety of grape.
a shrub producing small edible black, red, or white berries.
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Note added at 18 mins (2006-04-11 12:41:17 GMT)
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http://www.snv.jussieu.fr/bmedia/Fruits/charnu.htm
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Note added at 19 mins (2006-04-11 12:42:10 GMT)
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http://www.snv.jussieu.fr/bmedia/Fruits/complexe.htm
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Note added at 22 mins (2006-04-11 12:45:10 GMT) Post-grading
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http://www.infovisual.info/01/035_fr.html
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