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Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

Dated material

French translation:

durée de validité limitée / date limite présente

Added to glossary by Olivia ORMSTON
Feb 16, 2014 16:03
10 yrs ago
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English term

Dated material

English to French Other Business/Commerce (general) Letter
Je traduit un courrier d'un fournisseur.
Au dessus de la date du courrier un est inscrit DATED MATERIAL
Que veut dire cette expression ?
En date du ?
Merci
Proposed translations (French)
4 +1 durée de validité limitée / date limite présente
4 +2 produit / matériau à durée de vie limitée
4 produit périmé
2 documents/documentation datés

Discussion

Germaine Feb 21, 2014:
Daryo, Congrats! Bonne hypothèse et bonne recherche! :-)
Now that I see it, I recognize it. Ça se présente différemment ici.
D'habitude, on a "Message important! Ouvrez avant le [date]" ou "Offre d'une durée limitée. Répondez avant le [date].
Happy curiosity!
Sheila Wilson Feb 17, 2014:
Note to Asker Olivia, it must by now be clear that unless we are given more context we really won't be able to provide anything useful about the meaning or the translation of these two words in this particular context.
Daryo Feb 17, 2014:
But for us there IS a point: an exercise that will be useful for improving / developing our translation methods or just curiosity - a kind of puzzle solving.
Anyway, there's enough real-life samples to be found on the Web to get a good idea of what this "dated material" notice could mean in this kind of context.
Germaine Feb 17, 2014:
Daryo, We don't hold the letter. So nothing is obvious, but the fact that there is a date to this letter: Au dessus de la date du courrier 1 est inscrit DATED MATERIAL.
As it is on top of the letter, DATED MATERIAL might very well be following the usual "RE:". Vous seriez surpris de voir la quantité de lettres qui commencent par l'objet avant toute chose!
Who would bother with such a letter? Every $1 store, dollarama, etc. to begin with.
Writing about dated material looks like a proper waste of time? Well, reality check: nine of us took time discussing a letter they know nothing about but 2 words! :-)
HERBET Abel Feb 17, 2014:
Lettre/Colis suivi
Daryo Feb 16, 2014:
"dated material" has obviously to so with some kind of date / point in time.
If it's on top of the letter before a date, before everything else, "dated material" relates to the whole letter as such, not to any particular matter in the letter.
Also a letter about some "obsolete, no longer pertinent etc." subject looks like a proper waste of time: who would bother with reading a letter that start by announcing itself as being about a subject mater that is "obsolete, no longer pertinent etc."? I think the meaning is to be searched in some other direction.
Between what the dictionary says and the reality check, the choice seems to me obvious.
What is the date next to the mention "dated material" - a date in the future? or simply the date when the letter was sent?
writeaway Feb 16, 2014:
Je suis anglophone et je crois que Germaine a tout à fait raison. Obsolete, no longer pertinent etc.
Beila Goldberg Feb 16, 2014:
L'objet d'un courrier est rarement mis au dessus de la date ...
C'est en général l'adresse du destinataire.
Mais tout peut se voir et suivant l'origine du texte, si elle est un peu exotique ...
Bonne chance pour le reste.
Alain Boulé Feb 16, 2014:
Il me semble que Germaine pourrait bien avoir raison, du matériel périmé, obsolète . Il faudrait connaitre le reste du courrier...
Mireille BOULANGER Feb 16, 2014:
De quel matériel s'agit-il cela pourrait nous aider pour trancher ?
Beila Goldberg Feb 16, 2014:
Soit FX a raison, soit ce ne serait pas à traduire par référence à
http://www.seton.com/general-information-labels-dated-materi...
Ce que vous seule pouvez juger, en ayant l'original sous les yeux.
Germaine Feb 16, 2014:
"En date du" (anglicisme) m'étonnerait beaucoup! Il me semble que "dated material" désigne un matériel périmé, obsolète, démodé (R&C), des fins de ligne, du "vieux stock", quoi.

Proposed translations

+1
9 hrs
Selected

durée de validité limitée / date limite présente

in this context - as mention at the beginning of a letter / message:
dated material = material (i.e. information) that is relevant only before a certain date, after which date it will become useless.

In other words, a letter starting with "dated material" could be about an offer that will be valid only for a limited time, so after the "offer expiration date" there will be no longer any point in reading the letter or trying to respond.


"... Dated Material Open Immediately ..."
[http://www.seton.com/general-information-labels-dated-materi...]

"... Date: Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 10:16 AM
Subject: AMS Items of Interest - Dated Material Please Read
To: regular.......

The following is information you may find of interest:

· CoCoRaHS WxTalk Webinar for September 2012 ..."
[https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/swmi-amsnwa/UTqiRm8S...]

"... Dated Material – Please Rush - - September/October 2013 ..."
[http://mancelonaumc.org/linked/newsletter_-september_october...]


"... ..."


"... ..."

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Note added at 10 hrs (2014-02-17 02:12:04 GMT)
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"information à durée de validité limitée"
Peer comment(s):
agree GILLES MEUNIER
2 hrs
Merci!
agree Christopher Newell
10 hrs
Merci!
disagree Sasa Kalcik :
3 days 8 hrs
Something went wrong...
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you ! In this contexte, it is the right translation."
2 hrs

produit périmé

je pense
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+2
7 mins

produit / matériau à durée de vie limitée

"Age Dated Material
QA12 Age dated material ordered on this purchase order shall be supplied with a minimum of 80% of the useful life remaining unless otherwise stipulated in the purchase order."
http://cgrtechinc.bethermalandpower.com/.../PurchaseOrderReq...‎

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Note added at 3 hrs (2014-02-16 19:34:53 GMT)
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I really doubt that "dated", as in "this is a bit dated" would apply to material sold by a supplier. That's why I think this is more along the lines of "time-dated" - as in "best by...".
Peer comment(s):
agree Monique Hamon
54 mins
merci!
neutral Daryo : it's the letter itself / the message that has a "limited shelf life"
9 hrs
agree Sasa Kalcik
3 days 17 hrs
Something went wrong...
4 hrs

documents/documentation datés

une suggestion
Peer comment(s):
agree mchd : Date du document, tout simplement.
1 hr
disagree Daryo : doesn't really add up: before the date you simply put "date: ..."
5 hrs
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