Nov 11, 2002 19:19
21 yrs ago
Dutch term
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Native in: English 
Works in: Dutch to English, Flemish to English
Gandaham in de klem
Dutch to English
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More menu items. Again, phrases I don't know are in square brackets:
Gandaham [in de klem]
[groentemosterd]
Vlaams gerookt [notenhammetje]
[Ouderwetse boerenkop]
Gandaham [in de klem]
[groentemosterd]
Vlaams gerookt [notenhammetje]
[Ouderwetse boerenkop]
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 -1 | "in the trap" ??? |
Chris Hopley
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| 4 +3 | Gandaham |
Henk Peelen
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| 5 +1 | "potted head" for varkenskop |
Toiny Van der Putte-Rademakers
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Proposed translations
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46 mins
Chris Hopley
Netherlands
Netherlands
Native in English
Netherlands
Dutch & German to English
Native in: English (Variants: British, UK, Irish, US, Australian, Canadian, New Zealand)
Works in: German to English, Dutch to English, Flemish to English, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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2117
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"in the trap" ???
In de klem - in the trap ??? I found a Belgian website with a menu in French and Dutch. For what it's worth, their French rendering of "Beenham in de Klem" was "Jambon à l'Os sur griffe". See links below and scroll down to "Uit de Hoeve" and "De la ferme", respectively.
Groentemosterd - Vegetable mustard, i.e. a mustard with chunks of vegetables in it. See http://www.lazzaris.com/mos_verdura_eng.html for example.
Vlaams gerookt notenhammetje - Flemish nut-smoked ham.
Boerenkop is a sort of paté type food with chunky white bits in it. I don't dare think why they call it kop. I think it's called hoofdkaas in the Netherlands, which doesn't make it sound any better! Van Dale translates that as brawn or headcheese, but I've never heard of either. It's some sort of "farmhouse paté" anyway.
I hope at least some of this helps!
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Note added at 2002-11-11 20:28:09 (GMT)
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Henk is right about the notenhammetje (see below).
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Note added at 2002-11-12 13:15:03 (GMT)
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Apparently \"potted head\" is a known delicacy in Scotland, where it\'s apparently also known as \"pottit heid\":
-> \"Pottit heid is still available in wee plastic jars in a butcher’s shop in Nicholson Street every Thursday. And very toothsome it is as is their jelly veal. As with smoking Capstan Full Strength, pottit heid nooadays is only for the brave and carries a Government warning to the effect that it is almost a hundred percent guaranteed to produce Mad Coo disease! And that also applies to those who still go in for sheeps heid soup. You really need a big pot tae get the hale heid in and there arny minny pots that size so ye hiv tae ask tae hiv the heid split in two!\"
http://pub35.ezboard.com/fsuesscotchcornerscottishrecipes.sh...
-> \"pottit-heid - meal made from a jellied, boiled pigs head\"
http://www.btinternet.com/~ryan.davie/p.htm
Also interesting if you like accents and dialects is: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,706929,00.htm...
Groentemosterd - Vegetable mustard, i.e. a mustard with chunks of vegetables in it. See http://www.lazzaris.com/mos_verdura_eng.html for example.
Vlaams gerookt notenhammetje - Flemish nut-smoked ham.
Boerenkop is a sort of paté type food with chunky white bits in it. I don't dare think why they call it kop. I think it's called hoofdkaas in the Netherlands, which doesn't make it sound any better! Van Dale translates that as brawn or headcheese, but I've never heard of either. It's some sort of "farmhouse paté" anyway.
I hope at least some of this helps!
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Note added at 2002-11-11 20:28:09 (GMT)
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Henk is right about the notenhammetje (see below).
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Note added at 2002-11-12 13:15:03 (GMT)
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Apparently \"potted head\" is a known delicacy in Scotland, where it\'s apparently also known as \"pottit heid\":
-> \"Pottit heid is still available in wee plastic jars in a butcher’s shop in Nicholson Street every Thursday. And very toothsome it is as is their jelly veal. As with smoking Capstan Full Strength, pottit heid nooadays is only for the brave and carries a Government warning to the effect that it is almost a hundred percent guaranteed to produce Mad Coo disease! And that also applies to those who still go in for sheeps heid soup. You really need a big pot tae get the hale heid in and there arny minny pots that size so ye hiv tae ask tae hiv the heid split in two!\"
http://pub35.ezboard.com/fsuesscotchcornerscottishrecipes.sh...
-> \"pottit-heid - meal made from a jellied, boiled pigs head\"
http://www.btinternet.com/~ryan.davie/p.htm
Also interesting if you like accents and dialects is: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,706929,00.htm...
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Toiny Van der Putte-Rademakers
: not-smoked implies nuts are used for smoking the ham
12 hrs
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Yes, I already added that Henk was right about the "nut" and I was wrong.
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3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Difficult one to call, this, in view of everyone's correct contributions. Consider it shared - sorry, can only give one set of points (references were good).
I got talking to a Yorkshirewoman today who knew what 'brawn' was, and a search on 'brawn culinary' got lots of hits. Call me picky, but 'potted head' would turn my stomach if I saw it on a menu!
The thing about 'in de klem' just means it's on a ham stand, a piece of equipment that got loads of hits - it's some metal thing with a claw that holds ham in place to serve it from a cold buffet.
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+3
1 hr
Henk Peelen
Netherlands
Netherlands
Native in Dutch
Netherlands
Polytechnic school; Studio & memoQ
Native in: Dutch 
Works in: German to Dutch, English to Dutch
Related KudoZ points
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756
Gandaham
1
Gandaham = Gandaham
see my answer on your previous question
2
groentemosterd = vegetable mustard
See internet address
Home : Side Dishes : Relish Recipes : Vegetable Mustard Relish
3
cushion of veal
international dictionary of food and cooking:
nut of veal (UK) see cushion of veal
OK, we do so:
cushion of veal (UK): the thick longitudinal muscle at the rear inside of the leg of veal, equivalent to topside of beef. Used for escalopes, roasting, braising and sautéing [also called nut]
4
Ouderwetse boerenkop =
look at www.proz.com/pro/31907
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Note added at 2002-11-12 12:23:52 (GMT)
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ouderwetse boerenkop, just for supplementation of other people\'s answers:
I found in the OED the next data about the possible translations of my peers:
head-cheese (U.S.), pork-cheese, brawn
1845 E. Acton Mod. Cookery (ed. 2) xi. 245 Leg of Suffolk farm-house pork. Ibid. 261 Common farm-house sausages are made with nearly equal parts of fat and lean pork.
potted head, preskop, hoofdkaas: no entries
maybe these entries contain usefull information
Gandaham = Gandaham
see my answer on your previous question
2
groentemosterd = vegetable mustard
See internet address
Home : Side Dishes : Relish Recipes : Vegetable Mustard Relish
3
cushion of veal
international dictionary of food and cooking:
nut of veal (UK) see cushion of veal
OK, we do so:
cushion of veal (UK): the thick longitudinal muscle at the rear inside of the leg of veal, equivalent to topside of beef. Used for escalopes, roasting, braising and sautéing [also called nut]
4
Ouderwetse boerenkop =
look at www.proz.com/pro/31907
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Note added at 2002-11-12 12:23:52 (GMT)
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ouderwetse boerenkop, just for supplementation of other people\'s answers:
I found in the OED the next data about the possible translations of my peers:
head-cheese (U.S.), pork-cheese, brawn
1845 E. Acton Mod. Cookery (ed. 2) xi. 245 Leg of Suffolk farm-house pork. Ibid. 261 Common farm-house sausages are made with nearly equal parts of fat and lean pork.
potted head, preskop, hoofdkaas: no entries
maybe these entries contain usefull information
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Chris Hopley
: Yep, "smoked nut of ham"!
5 mins
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| agree |
writeaway
: Ganda Ham is a brand and is considered to be gourmet quality; see: www.ganda.be/Engels/welcome.
1 hr
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| agree |
vixen
16 hrs
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+1
13 hrs
Toiny Van der Putte-Rademakers
Native in Dutch
Toiny Van der Putte-Rademakers
20 years in medical and nutrition
Native in: Dutch (Variant: Netherlands)
Works in: English to Dutch, Dutch to English
Related KudoZ points
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44
"potted head" for varkenskop
Preskop, hoofdkaas, zure zult: three synonyms for boerenkop. Boerenkop is Flemish, zure zult is definitely Dutch and better-known, with hoofdkaas and preskop on second and third place.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Chris Hopley
: "Potted head" would indeed appear to be the correct term for "boerenkop". See also my note above.
4 hrs
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