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Jan 14, 2005 19:46
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Chinese term

以货币方式入资

Non-PRO Chinese to English Law/Patents Law: Contract(s)
what is the English for this term?

Thanks
Proposed translations (English)
4 +1 contribute in cash
4 FYI
4 investment in cash
4 become a shareholder through cash contribution
3 TRY
3 FYI

Discussion

chica nueva Jan 16, 2005:
to JYuan It would have been easier if I'd known it was from an Articles of Association. As it was I had to try to search for all the possible contexts to get a fix on the term and its usage - Chinese is not my native language, you know...
jyuan_us Jan 16, 2005:
Excuse me if my comment above bothers people.
jyuan_us Jan 16, 2005:
Lesley: Non-cash, other than cash, non-monetary, û��ô���Ӱ�? ��Ӧ�㲻��רҵ�ʻ�, Ҳ��۲������Ȼ. �ѵ���Թù�SEARCH һƬ���. ����, ��Щ������ı����Լ�ǿ��? I doubt it. I always use a critical eye while I obsorb the nutrients from published articles
chica nueva Jan 16, 2005:
Tingting, I decided to move my comments here because I thought peers might not like the 'neutrals'. The reason I couldn't put 'Agree' to any one of the answers is only because I don't know the correct answer myself!
chica nueva Jan 16, 2005:
Zhoudan's is good, but how do you explain �Էǻ��ҷ�ʽ����;�Ի����ʽ���...֧����ʽ, ʵ���ʲ�.....֧����ʽ, �ֽ�.?// how about monetary/non-monetary? ����ʵ���ʲ��������ڻ����ʽ�...(�ô����)//to understand �Ի��ҷ�ʽ��/���� you have to understand �Էǻ�
chica nueva Jan 16, 2005:
J_Yuan_US's is good too. My Google search brought up �ɶ���������:XXX�Ի�����ʽ����.���ҷ�ʽƽ�е�Ӧ�û���XX�������ʽ - absolutely. But how do you explain �Էǻ��ҷ�ʽ����? I think that might be the key. The analysis is good - it's a positive contrib
chica nueva Jan 16, 2005:
Joe Wang's is good. Google search brought up �Ի����ʽ�ʽ, and it seems to include ֧���ֽ�,ʵ��(both cash and kind).I don't know what the correct term is yet...
Non-ProZ.com Jan 16, 2005:
To Zhoudan: how about contribute via means other than cash for 以非货币方式入资? I am wondering if I could use invest in cash instead contribute in cash for my original question?
Non-ProZ.com Jan 16, 2005:
To Lesley: I agree with Zhoudan. The meaning here is to invest or put down money, in Chinese ��׻�Ҳ���dz�Ǯ����Ͷ�ʡ�but I am looking for a formal way of saying it. I guess Zhoudan's contribute in cash could work here.
Zhoudan Jan 16, 2005:
Hi Lesley, I'm pretty sure that ���� is the same as ����.
chica nueva Jan 15, 2005:
Hi Tingting. I'm wondering if ���� and ���� are the same. More context might be really helpful - I guess we don't have many specialists in the Chinese-English pair, have to try to understand the term first...

Proposed translations

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10 hrs
Chinese term (edited): �Ի��ҷ�ʽ����
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contribute in cash

以实物方式入资
contribute in kind

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To Lesley:

For \"非货币方式出资\", what do you think if I translate it as \"contribute in forms other than cash\"?

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I prefer \"contribute in cash\". \"Invest in cash\" does not mean \"以货币出资\", as you could see in this sentence which I found via googling: \"For instance, CMTs have the same goal, but they only invest in cash whereas monthly income funds invest in cash and a variety of fixed interest investments.\"(http://www.mlim.com.au/cms/public/mlim003753.jsp)


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I also did a google search for Tingting\'s suggestion \"via means other than cash\", no hits! My search for \"in forms other than cash\" returned 321 hits.
Peer comment(s):
agree TRANS4CHINA
1377 days
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you for the discussion here.I didn't expect this when I posted the question. This shouldn't be a complicated question. The original context is from Articles of Association. In the US, information like 各方入资don't often appear in Articles of Association. The original text doesn't mention shareholder at all, so I cannot use shareholder for the translation. Contribute in cash sounds fine with native speakers, I checked that. Also contribute in forms other than cash is also correct to a native speaker. but my own suggestion really sounds odd. As for a more formal, accurate way of saying it, maybe I should consult some lawyers here? Thanks again, everybody. "
6 hrs
Chinese term (edited): �Ի��ҷ�ʽ����

FYI

可否直接说成：offer fund investment　（以资金投入）
如果在入资里面提到货币，觉得有点重复！
FYI！
Peer comment(s):
neutral Zhoudan : 入资方式有很多种的：货币入资、实物入资、技术入资等等，所以必须说明是货币入资
4 hrs
But as I mentioned 'fund', that may be used to imply money, cash or currency.
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10 hrs
Chinese term (edited): ����

TRY

入资=入股.

货币方式表示用现金, 当然也包括现金支票. In cash? with available funds? I don't know.

与货币方式平行的应该还有融资等其它方式. 还有人可以用声誉, 地位, 技术,品牌,证券,房屋产权等入股, 甚至有卖身股一说(stock option).
This is laymen's informed guess.

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因此, IMHO, 货币方式还是译出较妥善.
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1 day 1 hr
Chinese term (edited): �Ի��ҷ�ʽ����

FYI

I'm guessing 出资 and 入资 are the same thing one from the perpective of the shareholder and the other from the perspective of the enterprise. 请教,是不是这样?

Maybe this will help with some context:

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辞海;经济分册(1980):

货币资本(政治经济学p28) = 以货币形式存在的资本. 货币本身并非资本,只有用作剥削工具时才变成资本.最初利用货币进行剥削的资本形势是高利贷资本.在资本主义社会,货币资本是产业资本在其循环中所采取的一种形式,用来购买生产资料和劳动力,已进行剩余价值的生产. 货币资本的独立性态势*借贷资本.
货币资金(财物,会计p507) = 企业所拥有的,处于货币形态的资金.如库存现金,银行存款等.

现代汉语词典:
货币 = 充当一切商品的等价值的特殊商品.货币是价值的一般代表,可以购买任何别的商品.
-> currency? money/monetary ? tangible assets?
货币地租 = 封建地租的一种形式.农民将农产品出卖后,相抵主教那一定数量的货币以代替劳役地租和实物地租.封建社会后期主要采取货币地租的形式.

外研社:汉英词典:
货币 = money; currency
货币单位 = monetary unit
货币地租 = money rent
货币资本 = money-capital

not \'tangible\' = 有形物;有形资产 (英汉国际政治经济词汇)
maybe \'monetary\'? -> 不太合适,基本上都是\"货币信用\",跟国家经济,banking, etc 有关的专词.

Good example here of monetary/non-monetary, \'cash and kind\' investment in a joint-venture.

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Chinese term (edited): �Ի��ҷ�ʽ����

investment in cash

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Chinese term (edited): �Ի��ҷ�ʽ����

become a shareholder through cash contribution

become a shareholder through cash contribution

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become a shareholder through cash input
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