Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
Ceux dits de l’opposition
English translation:
Members of the Opposition
Added to glossary by
Neil Rear
May 7, 2004 13:14
20 yrs ago
French term
Ceux dits de l’opposition
French to English
Social Sciences
Government / Politics
Ceux dits de l’opposition ont peine à se mouvoir librement et n’ont pratiquement pas accès aux médias qui demeurent toujours
Proposed translations
(English)
4 | Members of the Opposition | Rowan Morrell |
3 +3 | Those said to belong to the opposition | Emérentienne |
5 +1 | Those who are called the opposition | Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X) |
4 +2 | the would be opponents/opposition | RHELLER |
4 -1 | The so-called opposition | CMJ_Trans (X) |
Proposed translations
4 mins
French term (edited):
Ceux dits de l�opposition
Selected
Members of the Opposition
Or maybe: members of opposition parties. More vaguely, those belonging to opposition parties; perhaps those loyal to opposition parties. It's that sort of thing.
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Note added at 6 mins (2004-05-07 13:20:31 GMT)
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Here I would say something like: \"Members of opposition parties have very little freedom of movement and have virtually no access to the media that are left.
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Note added at 6 mins (2004-05-07 13:20:31 GMT)
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Here I would say something like: \"Members of opposition parties have very little freedom of movement and have virtually no access to the media that are left.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you!"
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8 mins
French term (edited):
Ceux dits de l�opposition
Those said to belong to the opposition
Those considered to be from the opposition party
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Stephanie Mitchel
16 mins
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merci
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agree |
Vicky Papaprodromou
22 mins
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merci
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neutral |
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
: this is a contresens...not said to belong..said to be
1 hr
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un contresens ?! Non, Jane.
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neutral |
writeaway
: it does put whether or not they are the opposition into doubt; said to be, but are they really, is the connotation in English
2 hrs
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yes, I hear this connotation in French too : implying that people are in the oppostion as a means used by the ruling party to impose their authority on people (wether or not the people really are in the opposition)
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agree |
Hacene
3 hrs
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merci
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14 mins
The so-called opposition
Those said to be part of the opposition find it difficult to move about freely and have virtually no access to what media since remain
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Note added at 2004-05-07 13:29:49 (GMT)
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media STILL remain - sorry!
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Note added at 2004-05-07 13:29:49 (GMT)
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media STILL remain - sorry!
Peer comment(s):
disagree |
Richard Nice
: "so-called" tends to be pejorative whereas "dits" is neutral?
4 mins
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not always - bad mood - it is Friday or the rain that gets to you?
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neutral |
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
: so called is soi-disant, la soi-disant opposition
1 hr
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I admit I hesitated but thought in the end that it would pass muster....
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+1
11 mins
French term (edited):
Ceux dits de l�opposition
Those who are called the opposition
dietic pronoun + past participle of dire [dit, dits, dites] + Pronoun...are/is called...or said to be
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Note added at 1 hr 26 mins (2004-05-07 14:40:34 GMT)
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This is not so easy but the meaning of ceux dits de l\'opposition is
FINAL: Those who are called members of the opposition...rather than those who are said to belong.....
said to belong would be: Ceux que l\'on dit appartenir.....
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Note added at 1 hr 26 mins (2004-05-07 14:40:34 GMT)
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This is not so easy but the meaning of ceux dits de l\'opposition is
FINAL: Those who are called members of the opposition...rather than those who are said to belong.....
said to belong would be: Ceux que l\'on dit appartenir.....
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Emérentienne
: ça ne rend pas bien compte de la nuance "...dits de..."
2 mins
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dits de c'est: who are called OR what is called...
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neutral |
paleozon
: You can do better, Jane!
26 mins
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agree |
truptee
: "Those who are called members of the opposition"
1 hr
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+2
2 hrs
French term (edited):
Ceux dits de l�opposition
the would be opponents/opposition
the apparent opposition
those from the opposing/opposition party
any declared members of the opposition
those from the opposing/opposition party
any declared members of the opposition
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
: Now that's really good...:) the first would be
1 hr
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thanks Jane!
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agree |
roneill
: There is definitely the idea of having declared allegiance to the opposition. This gets closest in English, I think.
2 hrs
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merci Ronat!
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