Jul 14, 2003 10:44
21 yrs ago
French term
vassalisé
French to English
Art/Literary
Ces sites centraux ont fini par contrôler les petits sites périphériques, vassalisés, soumis désormais à leur supériorité politique.
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6 hrs
Jean-Luc Dumont
France
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French term (edited):
vassalis�
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smaller peripheral sites, dominated/submitted, from now on subjugated to their political superiority
that is if you dont want to use vassalized for its medievalesque connotation
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Note added at 6 hrs 4 mins (2003-07-14 16:49:22 GMT)
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smaller peripheral sites, dominated or submitted, and from now on subjugated to their political superiority
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+2
2 mins
under feudal tender
a "vassal" is a holder of land under feudal tenure on conditions of homage and allegiance (Oxford dictionary)
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SORRY - I meant TENURE (not \"tender\"). The word was correct in the explanation
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Note added at 2003-07-14 10:47:49 (GMT)
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SORRY - I meant TENURE (not \"tender\"). The word was correct in the explanation
Peer comment(s):
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Steffen Walter
: but then it should read 'under feudal tenure' also in your headline (NOT: tender)
1 min
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just corrected - see above
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Enza Longo
: or under the feudal system if referring to medieval times as Aisha pointed out
10 mins
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| agree |
moya
: with Steffen, correction
2 hrs
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+1
4 mins
Aisha Maniar
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French/Arabic-English legal translator
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subordinate/subsidiary
just a couple of possibilities
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Note added at 2003-07-14 10:51:18 (GMT)
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I assume here you \"vassalisé\" as in \"subjugated\" and not as in a reference to medieval history which is not entirely obvious from your phrase...then again I may be wrong, but this is just my assumption give the context...
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Note added at 2003-07-14 10:56:35 (GMT)
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I assume here you \"vassalisé\" as in \"subjugated\" and not as in a reference to medieval history which is not entirely obvious from your phrase...then again I may be wrong, but this is just my assumption give the context...
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Note added at 2003-07-14 10:56:52 (GMT)
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I assume here you \"vassalisé\" as in \"subjugated\" and not as in a reference to medieval history which is not entirely obvious from your phrase...then again I may be wrong, but this is just my assumption give the context...
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Note added at 2003-07-14 10:57:26 (GMT)
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I assume here you \"vassalisé\" as in \"subjugated\" and not as in a reference to medieval history which is not entirely obvious from your phrase...then again I may be wrong, but this is just my assumption give the context...
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Note added at 2003-07-14 10:59:05 (GMT)
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whoops...I don\'t understand why the message was sent so many times...this was not my intention! Sorry for any annoyance caused to anyone!
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Note added at 2003-07-14 10:51:18 (GMT)
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I assume here you \"vassalisé\" as in \"subjugated\" and not as in a reference to medieval history which is not entirely obvious from your phrase...then again I may be wrong, but this is just my assumption give the context...
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Note added at 2003-07-14 10:56:35 (GMT)
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I assume here you \"vassalisé\" as in \"subjugated\" and not as in a reference to medieval history which is not entirely obvious from your phrase...then again I may be wrong, but this is just my assumption give the context...
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Note added at 2003-07-14 10:56:52 (GMT)
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I assume here you \"vassalisé\" as in \"subjugated\" and not as in a reference to medieval history which is not entirely obvious from your phrase...then again I may be wrong, but this is just my assumption give the context...
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Note added at 2003-07-14 10:57:26 (GMT)
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I assume here you \"vassalisé\" as in \"subjugated\" and not as in a reference to medieval history which is not entirely obvious from your phrase...then again I may be wrong, but this is just my assumption give the context...
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Note added at 2003-07-14 10:59:05 (GMT)
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whoops...I don\'t understand why the message was sent so many times...this was not my intention! Sorry for any annoyance caused to anyone!
Peer comment(s):
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Enza Longo
: depending on the context, yours are also good suggestions
13 mins
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CMJ_Trans (X)
: I hesitate over "subordinate, etc." because the next word is "soumis" and that is where they talk about the fact that they are now under someone else's political domination
1 hr
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+2
2 hrs
under their vassalage OR vassalized [UK spelling also vassalised]
The word vassalized exists. The more formal vassalage is in the OED.
... put his brother on the throne. Salamanazar chased out the Aramens
but vassalized Babylon. In 841BC, the Assyrian king organized ...
members.tripod.com/historel/orient/05mesop.htm - 54k - Cached - Similar pages
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could also be enfeoffed depending on WHEN in history
... put his brother on the throne. Salamanazar chased out the Aramens
but vassalized Babylon. In 841BC, the Assyrian king organized ...
members.tripod.com/historel/orient/05mesop.htm - 54k - Cached - Similar pages
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could also be enfeoffed depending on WHEN in history
17 hrs
Monica Alves
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subjugated and henceforth submitted to....
I think the term vassalisé is better translated as subjugated (root subj as in subject >> subdito (portuguese/spanish >> sujet (vassale) in French) more in keeping with the original sentence in French
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