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Feb 21, 2011 00:07
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German term
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Husarenattila
German to English
Social Sciences
Military / Defense
Uniforms
From an auction catalogue of Old Master paintings. Unfortunately, I do not have a picture, nor do I have any further description. From what I have seen on the internet it seems to refer to the jacket of a Hussar's uniform of the time. Here is a picture of something similar: http://www.museum-digital.de/san/index.php?t=objekt&suinin=9...
My question is how does this differ from what might otherwise be called a Waffenrock or Husarenjacke (EN=dolman).
Here is my text:
Russische Schule um 1800
Porträt eines jungen Dandy in Husarenattila, Öl auf Leinwand
Any specialist help gratefully received from military historians out there.
My question is how does this differ from what might otherwise be called a Waffenrock or Husarenjacke (EN=dolman).
Here is my text:
Russische Schule um 1800
Porträt eines jungen Dandy in Husarenattila, Öl auf Leinwand
Any specialist help gratefully received from military historians out there.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +1 | Hussar uniform jacket |
swisstell
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References
| Attila |
Johanna Timm, PhD
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Proposed translations
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2 hrs
Hussar uniform jacket
Hussar Attila
Beschreibung ... Description ...
Diese Husaren-Attila aus der zweiten Hälfte des 19. This hussar Attila the second half of the 19th Jahrhundert gelangte 1975 als Schenkung aus Petersmark von der Familie des früheren Besitzers, Gustav Küster (Erxleben), in das Osterburger Museum. Century arrived in 1975 as a gift from St. Mark by the family of former owner, Gustav Kuester (Erxleben), Osterburg in the museum.
Es handelt sich um eine mit weißen Schnüren besetzte Uniformjacke aus rotem Wollstoff. There is a uniform jacket with white lace occupied in red wool. Zum Verschluß dienen Knebelknöpfe. Toggle buttons are used for closure.
Diese Uniformjacken sind in ihrer Gestaltung der ungarischen Nationaltracht nachempfunden und wurden von Angehörigen des Husaren-Regiments von Zieten (Brandenburgisches Nr. 3) getragen. These uniform jackets are in their design of the Hungarian national costume and were inspired by members of the Hussars of Zieten (Brandenburg No. 3) worn.
Material/Technik ... Material / technology ...
Wollstoff Wool Cloth
Maße ... Dimensions ...
L. ca. 70 cm; Saumbreite ca. 45/90 cm L. 70 cm, hem width approx 45/90 cm
Wurde genutzt ... Was used ...
... ... wer: who:
Gustav Küster Gustav Kuester
... ... wann: when:
2. 2. Hälfte 19. Half of the 19th Jahrhundert Century
Gehört zu ... Belongs to ...
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Note added at 13 hrs (2011-02-21 13:28:13 GMT)
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As to your email queston: no, it is not from a machine translation. As a translator, I do not believe in machine translations! It is from a web site, and since there are so many you can find under "Husarenattila" or "hussar attila", I leave it up to you to find confirmation there. You can also see illustrations of the jacket.
Beschreibung ... Description ...
Diese Husaren-Attila aus der zweiten Hälfte des 19. This hussar Attila the second half of the 19th Jahrhundert gelangte 1975 als Schenkung aus Petersmark von der Familie des früheren Besitzers, Gustav Küster (Erxleben), in das Osterburger Museum. Century arrived in 1975 as a gift from St. Mark by the family of former owner, Gustav Kuester (Erxleben), Osterburg in the museum.
Es handelt sich um eine mit weißen Schnüren besetzte Uniformjacke aus rotem Wollstoff. There is a uniform jacket with white lace occupied in red wool. Zum Verschluß dienen Knebelknöpfe. Toggle buttons are used for closure.
Diese Uniformjacken sind in ihrer Gestaltung der ungarischen Nationaltracht nachempfunden und wurden von Angehörigen des Husaren-Regiments von Zieten (Brandenburgisches Nr. 3) getragen. These uniform jackets are in their design of the Hungarian national costume and were inspired by members of the Hussars of Zieten (Brandenburg No. 3) worn.
Material/Technik ... Material / technology ...
Wollstoff Wool Cloth
Maße ... Dimensions ...
L. ca. 70 cm; Saumbreite ca. 45/90 cm L. 70 cm, hem width approx 45/90 cm
Wurde genutzt ... Was used ...
... ... wer: who:
Gustav Küster Gustav Kuester
... ... wann: when:
2. 2. Hälfte 19. Half of the 19th Jahrhundert Century
Gehört zu ... Belongs to ...
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Note added at 13 hrs (2011-02-21 13:28:13 GMT)
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As to your email queston: no, it is not from a machine translation. As a translator, I do not believe in machine translations! It is from a web site, and since there are so many you can find under "Husarenattila" or "hussar attila", I leave it up to you to find confirmation there. You can also see illustrations of the jacket.
Note from asker:
| Is your reference material the result of machine translation? |
| Just to clarify, I haven't sent you an e-mail - just added a note here. I am sure you don't use machine translation yourself, but I suspect the website might have done! Thanks, I already have an image and description in German - see my original posting. I have submitted this translation now and have settled on hussar's attila tunic (as opposed to the earlier dolman tunic). Thanks for trying to help. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
British Diana
: whatever, it's the right meaning
7 hrs
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thank you, Diana and have a great week!
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Reference comments
6 mins
Johanna Timm, PhD
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Reference:
Attila
"Attila
Attila, kurzer, mit Schnüren besetzter Rock der ungarischen Nationaltracht; dann das ähnliche Uniformstück der Husaren, das ab 1849 zunächst in der k.u.k. Armee den bisher üblichen kurzschößigen, pelzbesetzten Dolman ersetzt."
* Meyers Großes Konversations-Lexikon, 6. Auflage 1905–1909
Picture:
http://www.kaisersbunker.com/gtp/husar.htm
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Note added at 8 mins (2011-02-21 00:16:46 GMT)
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Sorry, just saw that you have already a picture.. and a description...!and reference comments can't be hidden. Never mind then.
Attila, kurzer, mit Schnüren besetzter Rock der ungarischen Nationaltracht; dann das ähnliche Uniformstück der Husaren, das ab 1849 zunächst in der k.u.k. Armee den bisher üblichen kurzschößigen, pelzbesetzten Dolman ersetzt."
* Meyers Großes Konversations-Lexikon, 6. Auflage 1905–1909
Picture:
http://www.kaisersbunker.com/gtp/husar.htm
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Note added at 8 mins (2011-02-21 00:16:46 GMT)
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Sorry, just saw that you have already a picture.. and a description...!and reference comments can't be hidden. Never mind then.
Note from asker:
| Thank you, Johanna, I think from what I have found that the Attila style jacket/tunic was a later development than the dolman tunic. |
| No thanks, your reference helped. |
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