Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

neuménico

English translation:

numinous

Added to glossary by Kate Major Patience
Oct 28, 2010 21:26
13 yrs ago
Spanish term

neuménico

Spanish to English Art/Literary Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting Palma de Mallorca, sculpture
. “Lo que ahora sabemos, en pleno siglo XXI, es que la tecnología no es un a priori de la existencia humana y su posesión no obedece a las leyes de una selección natural de la especie. Sus determinaciones, desde su funcionalismo a su carácter manipulador, pueden ser revisadas, relativizadas o revertidas”, argumenta para explicar que esa apariencia futurista que ofrece Reuniones-es es pura ironía, que imaginemos que son piezas de deshecho, restos arqueológicos de una estación orbital que ha quedado obsoleta antes de ser concebida. “Existe la creencia de que el consumo tecnológico, esa gigantesca pantalla libidinal, nos liberará del horror vacui, vivimos como si lo real, lo ***neuménico*** de la libertad, estuviera anestesiado en la esquizofrenia telemática, eso sí que es pura ironía, ¿o no?”.

This comes from a dialogue in which a sculptor discusses his work, in this case a large sculpture for a public space (like those abstract tangles of metals on roundabouts, to put it bluntly so you get an idea of what I mean).

Is anyone familiar with this term? I see it gets very few results online, and I am having trouble working out what it means, even.

Any help on this one would be very much appreciated.
UK Eng.
Thanks in advance.
References
noumenal

Proposed translations

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Spanish term (edited): lo neuménico de la libertad
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a numen-like freedom // a degree of freedom worthy of numens

Two options.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numen

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OR:

a numinous freedom

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OR:

a numinous freedom :)
Note from asker:
Ah- gotcha! Numinous?
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noumenon

"an unknown and unknowable substance or thing as it is in itself" Chambers Dictionary, seems simplest explanation. The essence of the thing, here liberty, cannot be measured or perceived. Think it has to be left as noun

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www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/noumenon -also has definition and Lucia also gives good reference material.
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Reference comments

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Reference:

noumenal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noumenon

The noumenon (from Greek νοούμενoν, present participle of νοέω "I think, I mean"; plural: νοούμενα - noumena) is a posited object or event that is independent of the senses.[1] It classically refers to an object of human inquiry, understanding or cognition. As a concept it has much in common with objectivity.

The term is generally used in contrast with, or in relation to "phenomenon", which refers to appearances, or objects of the senses. A phenomenon can be an exceptional, unusual, or abnormal thing or event—but it must be perceptible through the senses; according to Kant a noumenon is what results in the presentation of phenomenon. Noumena are objects or events known only to the mind - independent of the senses.

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Kant
Kant calls the real world, independent of our minds, the noumenal world. The world we perceive is the phenomenal world. John claims that our total ...
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Kant: Knowledge
27 Oct 2001 ... Thus, on Kant's view, the notion of the natural world as a closed ... to distinguish between the distinct realms of phenomena and noumena. ...
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Supongo que tendría que ser "the noumenal aspect of liberty", pero no me a atrevo a proponértelo como respuesta porque este realmente no es mi tema... ojalá que te sea útil como un comienzo, al menos :-)
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