Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Jan 4, 2003 13:14
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Italian term
vela
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Description of a shirt:
Collo aperto e doppiato al quale è stato ridotta leggermente la vela.
Double collar? And what's the vela? Could the vela be the webbing used as interfacing?Never run into this before!
TIA
Collo aperto e doppiato al quale è stato ridotta leggermente la vela.
Double collar? And what's the vela? Could the vela be the webbing used as interfacing?Never run into this before!
TIA
Proposed translations
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| 3 +2 | fall |
Bilingualduo
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| 4 +2 | collar |
Sarah Ponting
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| 4 | solo aiuto |
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Proposed translations
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fall
Not sure though. In Italian a collar is made up of two parts, namely listino (=roll) and vela (fall?).
I'm in doubt between fall which would correspond to the Italian 'sopracollo' (part of the collar in men's shirts for example, the visible one, I mean) and lapel, which corresponds to revers, being the lower part of the collar following the break line.
Ahem...I hope it doesn't sound as confusing as it seems to be!
Good luck
Cristina
PS
doubled and open collar?
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Note added at 2003-01-04 13:38:26 (GMT)
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doubled open collar, that is.
I'm in doubt between fall which would correspond to the Italian 'sopracollo' (part of the collar in men's shirts for example, the visible one, I mean) and lapel, which corresponds to revers, being the lower part of the collar following the break line.
Ahem...I hope it doesn't sound as confusing as it seems to be!
Good luck
Cristina
PS
doubled and open collar?
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Note added at 2003-01-04 13:38:26 (GMT)
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doubled open collar, that is.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks folks. I went with this one (thanks Sarah for your confirmation). I realize it's a collar, but this is a rather technical text, and otherwise I'd have to put "double collar with a smaller collar", which sounds odd. So, fall it is. Happy Befana to all!"
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solo aiuto
Colletto e non collo!
Il colletto alto cm.6, in due pezzi (vela e listino) plastificato deve essere formato da due strati dello stesso tessuto con l’interno indeformabile termoadesivo.
La vela di detto colletto dovrà essere composta da:
- uno strato base da gr./mq. 170 ca;
- un rinforzo totale da gr./mq. 170 ca;
- un rinforzo alle punte da gr./mq. 110 ca;
- il listino ed i polsini dovranno essere rinforzati con uno strato base da gr./mq. 170 ca.
Il colletto alto cm.6, in due pezzi (vela e listino) plastificato deve essere formato da due strati dello stesso tessuto con l’interno indeformabile termoadesivo.
La vela di detto colletto dovrà essere composta da:
- uno strato base da gr./mq. 170 ca;
- un rinforzo totale da gr./mq. 170 ca;
- un rinforzo alle punte da gr./mq. 110 ca;
- il listino ed i polsini dovranno essere rinforzati con uno strato base da gr./mq. 170 ca.
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58 mins
collar
Hi Catherine.
It appears to mean what we'd simply call the collar of a shirt:
"Collo morbido perchè senza stecche nè rinforzi, detto anche button-down con due bottoncini nelle punte della vela"
(there's a photo showing a normal button-down collar)
http://www.media-shop.it/camicie/script/articoli.asp
Furthermore:
"il collo è formato da due parti: il listino e la vela"
http://www.edel2000.it/sarto/sartoria/03.htm
The listino is the neckband, whilst the vela is the foldover bit that we'd call the collar of a shirt.
The doppiato part probably means that it's lined or overlaid with a different fabric. It's a shame you haven't got a picture!
I don't think lapels come into it, as you'd normally only find them on a jacket, and from the websites I've looked at, vela is used in descriptions for classic shirts.
Hope this helps.
All the best for 2003.
Sarah
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Note added at 2003-01-04 14:33:36 (GMT)
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I\'ve just discovered that the technical terms used in tailoring are indeed fall and roll, as Cristina says. (\"Collar fall: the portion of the upper collarfrom the fold (roll line) to the outer edge\" - www.ca.uky.edu/agcollege/fcs/FACTSHTS/CT-LMH-171.PDF )
However, in normal speech you\'d say collar and neckband, so I suppose it all depends on who your text is destined for - tailors or general public.
It appears to mean what we'd simply call the collar of a shirt:
"Collo morbido perchè senza stecche nè rinforzi, detto anche button-down con due bottoncini nelle punte della vela"
(there's a photo showing a normal button-down collar)
http://www.media-shop.it/camicie/script/articoli.asp
Furthermore:
"il collo è formato da due parti: il listino e la vela"
http://www.edel2000.it/sarto/sartoria/03.htm
The listino is the neckband, whilst the vela is the foldover bit that we'd call the collar of a shirt.
The doppiato part probably means that it's lined or overlaid with a different fabric. It's a shame you haven't got a picture!
I don't think lapels come into it, as you'd normally only find them on a jacket, and from the websites I've looked at, vela is used in descriptions for classic shirts.
Hope this helps.
All the best for 2003.
Sarah
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Note added at 2003-01-04 14:33:36 (GMT)
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I\'ve just discovered that the technical terms used in tailoring are indeed fall and roll, as Cristina says. (\"Collar fall: the portion of the upper collarfrom the fold (roll line) to the outer edge\" - www.ca.uky.edu/agcollege/fcs/FACTSHTS/CT-LMH-171.PDF )
However, in normal speech you\'d say collar and neckband, so I suppose it all depends on who your text is destined for - tailors or general public.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Marie Scarano
: "doppiato" could also mean creased or folded? ANyway, sound reasonable, also because the size of shirt collars changes constantly with fashion
17 mins
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thanks, Marie
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| agree |
Angela Arnone
: sounds like collar to me too
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grazie, Angela
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