Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
aguas cloruradas
English translation:
chloride-rich water
Added to glossary by
Andrés Martínez
Sep 10, 2007 19:51
16 yrs ago
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Spanish term
aguas cloruradas
Spanish to English
Science
Chemistry; Chem Sci/Eng
water properties
I have been going around with this one for ages and haven't been able to pin down the translation. From what I have found out, these waters contain chlorides; "chloridic" is the adjective that means "containing chloride", but there are few refs. to "chloridic" and even fewer in a spa context. IATE has "chlorinated water" for "agua clorurada", but that's certainly not right for a spa.
Can anyone help with the right word?
Info. on "aguas cloruradas": http://www.canalsalud.info/mejor-prevenir/salud-alimentaria/...
Can anyone help with the right word?
Info. on "aguas cloruradas": http://www.canalsalud.info/mejor-prevenir/salud-alimentaria/...
Proposed translations
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4 +3 | chloride-rich water |
Andrés Martínez
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5 | chlorinated water |
Zareh Darakjian Ph.D.
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4 | purified waters |
Lydia De Jorge
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4 | chlorided water |
Ramon Villalobos
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Change log
Dec 27, 2011 18:01: Andrés Martínez Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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chloride-rich water
"Agua clorurada" es agua que contiene cloruros (sales de cloro), no agua que contiene cloro (eso es "agua clorada"). Cloro y cloruro no son lo mismo.
El cloro se usa para desinfectar y si está en concentración muy elevada es tóxico (un exceso en las piscinas provoca picor de ojos, irritación en la piel y síntomas respiratorios, etc.).
El agua de mar sería un "agua clorurada" por su gran contenido en cloruro de sodio (sal marina).
Cloro = chloriNe, ChloriNated water (agua clorada)
Cloruro = chloriDe
Yo optaría por una traducción como:
chloride-rich water
http://www.abalnearios.com/patologias/aparatorespiratorio/in...
Las aguas cloruradas están indicadas como broncodilatadoras, por lo que se utilizan en patologías inflamatorias crónicas con poca secreción bronquial, asma, traqueitis espasmódica, rinitis, poliposis nasal, alergias nasosinusales, rinifaringitis, otitis, laringitis y bronquitis.
Chile Guia de Termas de Chile, Spa Termal, Hotel & Resort, Tours ...Así, en el norte del país, la mayoría de las aguas termales corresponden a las llamadas ***aguas cloruradas, con gran presencia de cloruro de sodio, *** ...
chile.gotolatin.com/spa/Guide/ChileTermas/Chile-Termas-Articulos.asp
Water Softeners: A Scrooge in a Southern California Community
... in the water also affects those susceptible to vaporized ***chloride-rich water***. ... SPA: Great Way To Pamper Yourself! Find Your True Calling and Purpose ...
www.sleepingtiger.org/articles/Water-Softeners-A-Scrooge-in...
Search: Advanced Search Please select... Accommodation Campings ...- The Cegléd Thermal Spa was opened in May 2003 based on the area's wealth of thermal ... ***Chloride-rich water offers an excellent therapy for skin conditions***, ...
www.tourinform.hu/main.php?folderID=1537
ABC of France, the official website for Alsace, Burgundy and ...
Bourbon-Lancy in southern Burgundy is a ***sodium chloride-rich thermal spa*** town with therapeutic showers, baths, massages, and swimming facilities to. ...
www.abcoffrance.com/articles.cfm
El cloro se usa para desinfectar y si está en concentración muy elevada es tóxico (un exceso en las piscinas provoca picor de ojos, irritación en la piel y síntomas respiratorios, etc.).
El agua de mar sería un "agua clorurada" por su gran contenido en cloruro de sodio (sal marina).
Cloro = chloriNe, ChloriNated water (agua clorada)
Cloruro = chloriDe
Yo optaría por una traducción como:
chloride-rich water
http://www.abalnearios.com/patologias/aparatorespiratorio/in...
Las aguas cloruradas están indicadas como broncodilatadoras, por lo que se utilizan en patologías inflamatorias crónicas con poca secreción bronquial, asma, traqueitis espasmódica, rinitis, poliposis nasal, alergias nasosinusales, rinifaringitis, otitis, laringitis y bronquitis.
Chile Guia de Termas de Chile, Spa Termal, Hotel & Resort, Tours ...Así, en el norte del país, la mayoría de las aguas termales corresponden a las llamadas ***aguas cloruradas, con gran presencia de cloruro de sodio, *** ...
chile.gotolatin.com/spa/Guide/ChileTermas/Chile-Termas-Articulos.asp
Water Softeners: A Scrooge in a Southern California Community
... in the water also affects those susceptible to vaporized ***chloride-rich water***. ... SPA: Great Way To Pamper Yourself! Find Your True Calling and Purpose ...
www.sleepingtiger.org/articles/Water-Softeners-A-Scrooge-in...
Search: Advanced Search Please select... Accommodation Campings ...- The Cegléd Thermal Spa was opened in May 2003 based on the area's wealth of thermal ... ***Chloride-rich water offers an excellent therapy for skin conditions***, ...
www.tourinform.hu/main.php?folderID=1537
ABC of France, the official website for Alsace, Burgundy and ...
Bourbon-Lancy in southern Burgundy is a ***sodium chloride-rich thermal spa*** town with therapeutic showers, baths, massages, and swimming facilities to. ...
www.abcoffrance.com/articles.cfm
Peer comment(s):
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psicutrinius
: that's it: "clorurada" contains chloride ions. Chlorine is not pertinent here: Should be "clorada", not "clorurada"
10 mins
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Sí, eso es. Gracias, psicutrinius.
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Elizabeth Slaney
: They have to be referrring to chloride rather than chlorine (neat way round the problem)!!
18 mins
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Sí, eso creo con seguridad. Gracias, Elizabeth.
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Zareh Darakjian Ph.D.
: Yes, if it is that the waters "contain" chlorides... then "chloride-rich waters" is very much to he point. The purpose here probably is therapy mor than disinfection...
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Sí, creo que es eso. Probablemente son aguas que de forma natural tienen una gran cantidad de cloruro disuelto (p. ej. cloruro sódico, cloruro cálcico o cloruro potásico, o una mezcla de ellos). Gracias, Zareh.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks very much. This gave me a way to deal with all of the other variations, too (e.g., fluoradas, silicatadas, litínicas, etc.). Thanks to everyone who participated here; the discussion was very interesting."
10 mins
purified waters
chlorinated water is water purified with chlorine (kills germs)
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chlorided water
chloride MICl
where MI = metal
Se refiere al agua que contiene al clururo en forma de sal, principalmente de un metal alcalino.
CLORURADA: Agua que contiene sales procedentes del ácido clorhídrico. Es una combinación del cloro con un metal; el más conocido es el cloruro sódico o sal común.
Frase: "El agua clorurada tiene un sabor salado".
where MI = metal
Se refiere al agua que contiene al clururo en forma de sal, principalmente de un metal alcalino.
CLORURADA: Agua que contiene sales procedentes del ácido clorhídrico. Es una combinación del cloro con un metal; el más conocido es el cloruro sódico o sal común.
Frase: "El agua clorurada tiene un sabor salado".
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chlorinated water
Chlorinated water does not refer to water containig chloride (Cl^) which is not of much use for killing germs. They msy add Cl_2 and/or other cholrine containing substances to eventually get , I think the hypochlorite ion (HClO^-) which is the active ingredient.
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Note added at 23 mins (2007-09-10 20:15:13 GMT)
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Thus, as we can see (below) Cl_2 gas is not what is added to water ... but a hypochlorite (ClO^-) which can geberate cholrine in small amounts....
Chlorine
The most commonly used disinfectant for swimming pools is chlorine. In its elemental form chlorine is a heavy greenish yellow gas which is so toxic that is has been used as a weapon in chemical warfare. Because of the extremely high potential for injury or death from improper use of chlorine gas, a number of chlorine compounds have been formulated to provide chlorine in forms that can be handled and used safely by swimming pool operators.
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Note added at 24 mins (2007-09-10 20:16:45 GMT)
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Thus, chlorinated water does not mean water to which Cl_2 gas has been added (too dangerous) but a hypochlorite which generates Cl_2 gas "in situ" (i.e. on site).
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Note added at 48 mins (2007-09-10 20:39:59 GMT)
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To SCI-DE and Elizabeth:
Thank you for your comments. The point is this. I know that there is chloridation and chlorination. However, in water chemistry, if the end results is Cl_2 (chlorine) it is called "chlorination" to the beast of my knowledge. Chloridation is more commonly used to refer to adding a chloride atom to a molecular site... I don't mind the use of chloridation, as long as we realise that Cl^- is not the active ingredient. At the end it is Cl_2 --- which is chlornie.
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Note added at 57 mins (2007-09-10 20:49:06 GMT)
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Spa Lithium **Hypochlorite** 1kg
This product does not have that chlorine smell that some other products give off. It also provides the perfect combination with Spa Shock and Nature 2 Sanitising systems.
For the control of Algae and bacteria in spas and spa pools.
Fast acting sanitiser can be used for daily chlorination or shock treatment no residue (Full soluble).
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Note added at 1 hr (2007-09-10 20:52:00 GMT)
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XXX Spa Chlorinating Granules
Fast-dissolving granules kill bacteria, destroy organic contaminants and control algae. Also contains cyanuric acid to stabilize chlorine level. These fast-dissolving granules kill bacteria, destroy organic contaminants and control algae; XXX Spa Chlorinating Granules also contain cyanuric acid, which stabilizes your chlorine level. Treat daily or as needed to maintain a chlorine level of 4-5 ppm.
Directions
For start up: Add 5 teaspoons of Spa Chlorinating Granules per 500 gallons directly to spa water.
For daily treatment: Add 2½ teaspoons per 500 gallons of spa water.
To shock spa: Add 1 oz. of Spa Shock for each 500 gallons of water directly to spa water.
Product Details
2 lb. bottle
Sodium Dichloro-s-Triazine Trione Dihydrate (dichlor) 99%
Available chlorine 55%
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Note added at 23 mins (2007-09-10 20:15:13 GMT)
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Thus, as we can see (below) Cl_2 gas is not what is added to water ... but a hypochlorite (ClO^-) which can geberate cholrine in small amounts....
Chlorine
The most commonly used disinfectant for swimming pools is chlorine. In its elemental form chlorine is a heavy greenish yellow gas which is so toxic that is has been used as a weapon in chemical warfare. Because of the extremely high potential for injury or death from improper use of chlorine gas, a number of chlorine compounds have been formulated to provide chlorine in forms that can be handled and used safely by swimming pool operators.
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Note added at 24 mins (2007-09-10 20:16:45 GMT)
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Thus, chlorinated water does not mean water to which Cl_2 gas has been added (too dangerous) but a hypochlorite which generates Cl_2 gas "in situ" (i.e. on site).
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Note added at 48 mins (2007-09-10 20:39:59 GMT)
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To SCI-DE and Elizabeth:
Thank you for your comments. The point is this. I know that there is chloridation and chlorination. However, in water chemistry, if the end results is Cl_2 (chlorine) it is called "chlorination" to the beast of my knowledge. Chloridation is more commonly used to refer to adding a chloride atom to a molecular site... I don't mind the use of chloridation, as long as we realise that Cl^- is not the active ingredient. At the end it is Cl_2 --- which is chlornie.
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Note added at 57 mins (2007-09-10 20:49:06 GMT)
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Spa Lithium **Hypochlorite** 1kg
This product does not have that chlorine smell that some other products give off. It also provides the perfect combination with Spa Shock and Nature 2 Sanitising systems.
For the control of Algae and bacteria in spas and spa pools.
Fast acting sanitiser can be used for daily chlorination or shock treatment no residue (Full soluble).
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Note added at 1 hr (2007-09-10 20:52:00 GMT)
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XXX Spa Chlorinating Granules
Fast-dissolving granules kill bacteria, destroy organic contaminants and control algae. Also contains cyanuric acid to stabilize chlorine level. These fast-dissolving granules kill bacteria, destroy organic contaminants and control algae; XXX Spa Chlorinating Granules also contain cyanuric acid, which stabilizes your chlorine level. Treat daily or as needed to maintain a chlorine level of 4-5 ppm.
Directions
For start up: Add 5 teaspoons of Spa Chlorinating Granules per 500 gallons directly to spa water.
For daily treatment: Add 2½ teaspoons per 500 gallons of spa water.
To shock spa: Add 1 oz. of Spa Shock for each 500 gallons of water directly to spa water.
Product Details
2 lb. bottle
Sodium Dichloro-s-Triazine Trione Dihydrate (dichlor) 99%
Available chlorine 55%
Reference:
Peer comment(s):
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Esther Hermida
17 mins
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Thank you, so much, Esther! I just wanted to clarify the issue concerning "chlorination" of water which is the end results rather than the direct chlorination...
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Ramon Villalobos
: Dear Darakjian, It´s about waters for therapeutical use, not for disifection.
22 mins
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Thank you, SCI-DE, but please refer to my comment above...
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neutral |
Elizabeth Slaney
: I'm no specialist but surely there's a difference between "clorado" and "clorurado"?
23 mins
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Thank you, Elizabeth, but please refer to my comment above.
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disagree |
psicutrinius
: as you say, the addition of hypochlorite adds Cl2 (chlorine). ChloriDe is another matter, and this is what "cloruro" means. She said "contains", not "is added"
35 mins
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Thank you. I know chloride is added.. but to what end? language us not science. There are "accepted" misnomers.. one of them is this. Whay would they add cholride to Spa water?
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Discussion
http://www.ranf.com/pdf/aguas/granada.pdf
En esta última referencia consulte el apartado "Asociación hipotética de los iones" (página electrónica 26 y siguientes).
Yes, bicarbonate and chloride-rich. I don't see any problem with that...
Definition: any salt of hydrochloric acid (containing the chloride ion)
http://ardictionary.com/Chloride/5092
Los cloruros inorgánicos contienen el anión Cl-1 y por lo tanto son sales del ácido clorhídrico (HCl).