Sep 14, 2000 20:23
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Danielle
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Please help me with this awkward sentence!!
some warn that....... threatens France's self-proclaimed " cultural exception ".
Merci beaucoup
Danielle
some warn that....... threatens France's self-proclaimed " cultural exception ".
Merci beaucoup
Danielle
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Fr?d?rique
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Oncques/certains préviennent que.......... est une menace pour l'exception culturelle que s'est accaparée la France/que la France a proclamé sienne/dont la France se prévaut
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Comment: "Frederique, merci beaucoup pour votre reponse rapide.
Danielle
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proclamée par la France elle-même
On entend des avertissements selon lesquels ….. menacerait «l'exception culturelle» de la France, proclamée par la France elle-même.
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Bruno Magne
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Bonsoir, Danielle
L'expression qui me samble exprimer le mieux l'idée recherchée est "soi-disant"
"... menace la soit-disant exception culturelle de la France ou la soit-disant exception culturelle française".
Soit-disant est invariable.
Amicalement depuis le Brésil
Bruno Magne
L'expression qui me samble exprimer le mieux l'idée recherchée est "soi-disant"
"... menace la soit-disant exception culturelle de la France ou la soit-disant exception culturelle française".
Soit-disant est invariable.
Amicalement depuis le Brésil
Bruno Magne
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auto-proclame
certains previennent que...menace la France s'auto-proclamant "l'exception culturelle"
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Christian Fournier
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...l'exception culturelle française auto-proclamée.
Pour restituer le style galimatias de l'original ...
Bonne chance
Christian
Pour restituer le style galimatias de l'original ...
Bonne chance
Christian
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"certains mettent en garde que....... menace "l'exception culturelle" dont se targue la France.
Targuer seems like a good word for this translation. It means "se prévaloir avec ostentation, se vanter de (Petit Robert). My French-English dictionary writes: "targuer: to pride, plume, oneself on something, on doing something".
Although it doesn't mean quite the same thing, it sounds right. You could also use the words "l'exception culturelle autoproclamée par la France" but this sounds very awkward to me and even though it may be a little more accurate, I don't like it as much. Of course, the choice is yours.
Although it doesn't mean quite the same thing, it sounds right. You could also use the words "l'exception culturelle autoproclamée par la France" but this sounds very awkward to me and even though it may be a little more accurate, I don't like it as much. Of course, the choice is yours.
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
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se vanter (boast about)
How about turning it round this way?
Certains nous mettent en garde, disant que X menace "l'exception culturelle" dont la France se vante.
A bit longer but it sounds pretty French - although I am British, so maybe a French native speaker may help you decide.
Nikki
Certains nous mettent en garde, disant que X menace "l'exception culturelle" dont la France se vante.
A bit longer but it sounds pretty French - although I am British, so maybe a French native speaker may help you decide.
Nikki
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Checking back to see if it had gone through, I have just seen Dauphine's "se targuer" which I really like!
Using a reflexive verb here gets you out of teh "self-XXX" problem which does sound heavy when translated back along the lines of the original.
Using a reflexive verb here gets you out of teh "self-XXX" problem which does sound heavy when translated back along the lines of the original.
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I agree with you. Frederique's response is excellent. One caveat, though. If you choose the first expression she suggests, you cannot use "est une menace pour l'exception culturelle QUE s'est accaparée la France". The proper French sentence is "est une menace pour l'exception culturelle DONT s'est accaparée la France". I would hate to see you make such a mistake in an official translation...
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another comment and an apology
I have to correct my previous comment. Someone has pointed out to me that "accaparer" is a transitive verb, and he is right! I knew there was something wrong, but it was because I was confusing with the word "s'emparer". But you cannot use "s'accaparer", only "accaparer".
The sentence Frédérique has proposed is still not right, but not the way I thought. Here is what it should have been:
either "...l'exception culturelle qu'a accaparée la France"
or "...l'expression culturelle dont s'est emparée la France"
I do hope this comment doesn't come too late for your translation.
The sentence Frédérique has proposed is still not right, but not the way I thought. Here is what it should have been:
either "...l'exception culturelle qu'a accaparée la France"
or "...l'expression culturelle dont s'est emparée la France"
I do hope this comment doesn't come too late for your translation.
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