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Tom in London
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CafeTran Training wrote:
....Just don't expect the translation to be correct. ..
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Igor Kmitowski 
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The advances in MT and AI in general, remind me of HAL 9000 from Space Odyssey. The quote from Wikipedia article about HAL 9000:
"HAL is capable of speech, speech recognition, facial recognition, natural language processing, lip reading, art appreciation, interpreting emotional behaviours, automated reasoning, and playing chess."
The very fact that professional translators try to compete with MT showing off still their superiority gives it a lot of credit. Instead of co... See more The advances in MT and AI in general, remind me of HAL 9000 from Space Odyssey. The quote from Wikipedia article about HAL 9000:
"HAL is capable of speech, speech recognition, facial recognition, natural language processing, lip reading, art appreciation, interpreting emotional behaviours, automated reasoning, and playing chess."
The very fact that professional translators try to compete with MT showing off still their superiority gives it a lot of credit. Instead of competing, why don't you just supervise it in front of your "control rooms"? ▲ Collapse
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Tom in London
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| No competition | Sep 13, 2017 |
There's no competition. And let's remember: HAL screwed up. Big time.
[Edited at 2017-09-13 09:31 GMT]
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| it will happen... | Sep 13, 2017 |
but only for the lower end of the market... cheap and nasty. It's already happening to a certain extent... luckily there are many translators in the world intelligent enough to understand the ultimate consequence and refuse to take part in it... from a strict technological point of view, the human brain will never be reproduced and replaced. It would have happened by now. Don't believe the hype.
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Wojciech_ (X)
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| Not for MT post-editing, but... | Sep 15, 2017 |
I agree that all today's MT engines used for translating full sentences or paragraphs produces lots of garbage and post-editing such a "translation" is simply a tedious thing to do.
However... there are already several CAT tools that utilize only chunks of what MT engines produce, especially via autosuggest/autowrite functionality. I'm particularly impressed with what Studio's Autosuggest can do, providing me with useful chunks of text from MT engines, TMs, fragment matches, Regex e... See more I agree that all today's MT engines used for translating full sentences or paragraphs produces lots of garbage and post-editing such a "translation" is simply a tedious thing to do.
However... there are already several CAT tools that utilize only chunks of what MT engines produce, especially via autosuggest/autowrite functionality. I'm particularly impressed with what Studio's Autosuggest can do, providing me with useful chunks of text from MT engines, TMs, fragment matches, Regex etc. This really speeds up the process. In just one sentence I can use a chunk from Microsoft MT, followed by Google, than again Microsoft, a chunk from a TM and voila ▲ Collapse
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| DeepL search in Intelliwebsearch? | Sep 20, 2017 |
Hello everybody,
it was quite a shock for me to see how fast MT is progressing. In several years maybe you'll spot humans because they still make mistakes.There'll be autonomous writing and translating like autonomous driving. That's quite scary.
But meanwhile we have to use this tool to our advantage.
I tried to create a DeepL search for Intelliwebsearch but I am too stupid. The wizard fails because there's no search button on the DeepL website. I asked... See more Hello everybody,
it was quite a shock for me to see how fast MT is progressing. In several years maybe you'll spot humans because they still make mistakes.There'll be autonomous writing and translating like autonomous driving. That's quite scary.
But meanwhile we have to use this tool to our advantage.
I tried to create a DeepL search for Intelliwebsearch but I am too stupid. The wizard fails because there's no search button on the DeepL website. I asked on the IWS forum but no answer. I just found out that F5 makes the cursor jump into the search field.
Anybody already created a search setting?
Thanks in advance for any hint
Noe ▲ Collapse
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Tom in London
United Kingdom
Local time: 13:20
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Italian to English
Noe Tessmann wrote:
Hello everybody,
it was quite a shock for me to see how fast MT is progressing. In several years maybe you'll spot humans because they still make mistakes.There'll be autonomous writing and translating like autonomous driving. That's quite scary.
But meanwhile we have to use this tool to our advantage.
I tried to create a DeepL search for Intelliwebsearch but I am too stupid. The wizard fails because there's no search button on the DeepL website. I asked on the IWS forum but no answer. I just found out that F5 makes the cursor jump into the search field.
Anybody already created a search setting?
Thanks in advance for any hint
Noe
The post above was written by a computer.
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Michael Beijer
United Kingdom
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| Fake news! No it wasn't. | Sep 20, 2017 |
Tom in London wrote:
Noe Tessmann wrote:
Hello everybody,
it was quite a shock for me to see how fast MT is progressing. In several years maybe you'll spot humans because they still make mistakes.There'll be autonomous writing and translating like autonomous driving. That's quite scary.
But meanwhile we have to use this tool to our advantage.
I tried to create a DeepL search for Intelliwebsearch but I am too stupid. The wizard fails because there's no search button on the DeepL website. I asked on the IWS forum but no answer. I just found out that F5 makes the cursor jump into the search field.
Anybody already created a search setting?
Thanks in advance for any hint
Noe
The post above was written by a computer.
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Michael and Tom are both bots
Hello everybody,
it was quite a shock for me to see how fast MT is progressing. In several years maybe you'll spot humans because they still make mistakes.There'll be autonomous writing and translating like autonomous driving. That's quite scary.
But meanwhile we have to use this tool to our advantage.
I tried to create a DeepL search for Intelliwebsearch but I am too stupid. The wizard fails because there's no ... See more Michael and Tom are both bots
Hello everybody,
it was quite a shock for me to see how fast MT is progressing. In several years maybe you'll spot humans because they still make mistakes.There'll be autonomous writing and translating like autonomous driving. That's quite scary.
But meanwhile we have to use this tool to our advantage.
I tried to create a DeepL search for Intelliwebsearch but I am too stupid. The wizard fails because there's no search button on the DeepL website. I asked on the IWS forum but no answer. I just found out that F5 makes the cursor jump into the search field.
Anybody already created a search setting?
Thanks in advance for any hint
Noe [/quote]
The post above was written by a computer. [/quote]
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Noe Tessmann wrote:
Michael and Tom are both bots
Hello everybody,
it was quite a shock for me to see how fast MT is progressing. In several years maybe you'll spot humans because they still make mistakes.There'll be autonomous writing and translating like autonomous driving. That's quite scary.
But meanwhile we have to use this tool to our advantage.
I tried to create a DeepL search for Intelliwebsearch but I am too stupid. The wizard fails because there's no search button on the DeepL website. I asked on the IWS forum but no answer. I just found out that F5 makes the cursor jump into the search field.
Anybody already created a search setting?
Thanks in advance for any hint
Noe
The post above was written by a computer.
XD
However, it seems translators are not the only ones on the verge of extinction...
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/03/08/opinion/sunday/algorithm-human-quiz.html?mcubz=0
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Tom in London
United Kingdom
Local time: 13:20
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Italian to English
Mirko Mainardi wrote:
The post above was written by a computer.
EXECUTE
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Lingua 5B
Bosnia and Herzegovina
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| Interesting. | Sep 20, 2017 |
Noe Tessmann wrote:
In several years maybe you'll spot humans because they still make mistakes.
Sounds like a quote from Star Wars.
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Lingua 5B
Bosnia and Herzegovina
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| Machines replacing humans. | Sep 20, 2017 |
I have several questions related to this statement:
1. Who designs the machine?
2. Once broken, who is going to fix and maintain the machine?
3. Who operates the machine?
4. Once the market requires a new machine, who is going to design a new concept?
I guess the answer to all four questions is - another machine. Since the humans are out of the game, obviously.
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Mervyn Henderson (X)
Spain
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| Not machines or humans ... | Sep 21, 2017 |
... pre-programmed supermarionation. Captain Scarlet, in other words. And he's indestructible, too.
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