Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

déficit de ciudadanía

English translation:

citizenship deficit

Added to glossary by David Russi
Jan 9, 2009 10:41
15 yrs ago
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Spanish term

(personas con discapacidad) y con déficit de ciudadanía

Spanish to English Law/Patents Law (general) Disabled people
This is from the Sexta Disposción Adicional de la Ley de Contratos del Sector Público (30/2007).

The first part people with disabilities, is fine. I am looking for "established expressions" for "con déficit de cuidadanía" that are used by disabled groups in English speaking countries. PLEASE DO NOT TRY TO COIN A NEW PHRASE! (unless you really think it is so good you can't help yourself :)

thanks for you help
Change log

Jan 16, 2009 11:41: David Russi Created KOG entry

Discussion

Antony Price (asker) Jan 9, 2009:
honestly, I did not intend it to be rude! I disagree that the sentence is necessary in this case, as in all probability the set phrase exists in English and it is question of establishing the equivalence. The reference to the law in question is cited was given for those who might wish to delve into the complexities of the sentence, which is available on the internet http://noticias.juridicas.com/external/disp.php?name=l30-200...
I have since found "disabled citizenship" for instance, and citizenship deficit is clearly another term. Part of the problem here is that disabled groups are also questioning terminology (remember how rude handicapped is?) and the choice of vocabulary might be seen in a different light if you are in fact a person living with a disability, hence the possibility of a choice.
David Russi Jan 9, 2009:
I do agree that a sentence would help, hirselina, but the remark at the end was not rude, it was clearly a joke...
hirselina Jan 9, 2009:
Instead of rude remarks you might have provided a complete Spanish sentence

Proposed translations

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Spanish term (edited): déficit de ciudadanía
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citizenship deficit

http://www.nashp.org/_docdisp_page.cfm?LID=66438163-D4F0-4DA...



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http://cpd.org.au/article/its-time-confront-our-citizenship-...
A citizenship deficit emerges when groups sense or believe that they do not have access to political avenues to be heard, represented and demand change. In this context people feel unable to be engaged or are frustrated in their attempts to represent themselves or demand action from government and services on their behalf. This leads to disconnection from political processes.


Research Agenda: Investigating Citizenship Surpluses and Deficits

This changing city has meant that there has also been a change in the way that different groups interact with, and perceive, civic bodies. As noted, my initial research shows that this has led to the emergence of both citizenship surpluses and deficits.

http://journal.media-culture.org.au/index.php/mcjournal/arti...
Though the concept of a ‘citizen deficits and surpluses’ have not emerged within the broader literature, there is a wide range of literature that discusses how some sections of the population lack of access to democratic processes. There are three broad areas of research that have emerged relevant here: citizenship and young people (see Arvanitakis; Dee); citizenship and globalisation (see Della Porta; Pusey); and citizenship and immigration (see Baldassar et al.; Gow).
Note from asker:
Thanks, this is clearly the concept. I wonder what disabled people's groups think about the term "a person with a citizenship deficit". It will certainly do.
Peer comment(s):

neutral ormiston : even reading through your link I cannot work out what this means. Is it an adjective ? are they not eligible as do not qualify for citizenship ?
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I coied the wrong link before, take a look at the ones I just posted.
agree Daniel Watson : I think it refers to people whose rights as a citizen are deficient due to social reasons i.e. women getting paid less than men for the same job or because a disability is preventing them from taking advantage of their rights as a citizen.
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Thanks!
agree CMAPMK
1 hr
Thanks!
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non-citizens with disabilities

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Note added at 2 hrs (2009-01-09 13:25:10 GMT)
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UN Enable - Ad Hoc Committee - Rights of Persons with Disabilities ...
It may be too inclusive and imply, for example, that rights that are not guaranteed for non-citizens could be extended to non-citizens with disabilities. ...
www.un.org/esa/socdev/enable/rights/ahcwgreporta4.htm - 9k - Cached - Similar pages
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UN Enable - Towards a convention - Comments - Draft Article 4 ...
... so that people with disabilities can benefit rather than becoming more ... include the rights of non-citizens with disabilities who otherwise enjoy some ...
www.un.org/esa/socdev/enable/rights/wgdca4.htm - 17k - Cached - Similar pages
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PCG-6974-105 - D/50 and SSI Applications for Non Citizens
Noncitizens with disabilities who are qualified aliens and who were lawfully residing in the U.S. on August 22, 1996, can be eligible for SSI. ...
www.dpw.state.pa.us/oimpolicymanuals/manuals/bop/pc/pcg-697... - 5k - Cached - Similar pages
Note from asker:
I believe that non-citizens refers to foreigners living in another country which is not their own (which opens up all sorts of questions about whether they are allowed to access the same rights as nationals) although there is no such distinction made in the Spanish law between nationals and non-nationals
Peer comment(s):

agree cebice : "Deficit" means "lack of" so you are right.
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(individuals suffering from disabilities) who are ineligible for/to citizenship

I agree that a whole sentence would help, buthave found this officially 'cointed' phrase (although I'd have said elegible FOR not to):

INELIGIBLE TO CITIZENSHIP - An individual who is, or was at any time permanently debarred from becoming a citizen of the United States under section 3(a) of the Selective Training and Service Act of 1940, , or under section 4(a) of the Selective Service Act of 1948, as amended, or under any section of this chapter, or any other Act, or under any law amendatory of, supplementary to, or in substitution for, any of such sections or Acts. 8 U.S.

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'ciudadania' here surely implies citizenshipPLUS the notion of status/rights (i.e. not just that of being a 'non citizen'). If you want to remain PC and not offend, you could go for 'reduced' Citizenship –
FREE Citizenship
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(disabled persons) with reduced citizenship status

had to post this separately as no room.
Citizenship – FREE Citizenship Information | Encyclopedia.com ... - [ Traduire cette page ](1) For instance, regarding the ... immigrants find themselves under a reduced citizenship status within the new country's legal ... Read more ...
www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O184-Citizenship.html - 63k - En cache - Pages similaires
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