Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Turkish term or phrase:
cinayete azmettirmek
English translation:
Soliciting to murder
- The asker opted for community grading. The question was closed on 2012-03-15 16:54:10 based on peer agreement (or, if there were too few peer comments, asker preference.)
Mar 12, 2012 14:03
12 yrs ago
Turkish term
Ireland
cinayete azmettirmek
Turkish to English
Other
Law (general)
newspaper
Oğlunun organlarını bağışlayan baba kiralık katil tutmuş..
Hastanede beyin ölümü gerçekleşince bağışlanan organları 5 kişiye can olan Kenan Bozoğlu'nun babası Zeki Bozoğlu, 'cinayete azmettirmek' suçundan gözaltına alındı.
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Yardımınız için şimdiden çok teşekkürler.
Hastanede beyin ölümü gerçekleşince bağışlanan organları 5 kişiye can olan Kenan Bozoğlu'nun babası Zeki Bozoğlu, 'cinayete azmettirmek' suçundan gözaltına alındı.
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Yardımınız için şimdiden çok teşekkürler.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 5 +1 | Soliciting to murder |
Mehmet Ali Bahıt
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| 5 +1 | instigate to murder |
[Removed] (X)
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| 5 +1 | incitement to murder |
Gül Kaya
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| 5 | Instigated homicide |
Salih YILDIRIM
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| 4 +1 | commissioning murder |
Tim Drayton
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Proposed translations
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33 mins
Mehmet Ali Bahıt
Native in Turkish
In other words...
Native in: Turkish
Works in: English to Turkish, French to Turkish, Turkish to English, and 3 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
8
Selected
Soliciting to murder
Eskiden İngiliz yasasında incitement olarak tanımlanan eylem artık alt başlıklarına ayrılmış durumda. Cinayetle ilgili alt başlık "Soliciting to murder" olarak geçiyor.
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Evet, her iki şekilde de geçiyor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soliciting_to_murder
Cümlenin gidişine göre uygun olanı seçebilirsiniz.
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Evet, her iki şekilde de geçiyor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soliciting_to_murder
Cümlenin gidişine göre uygun olanı seçebilirsiniz.
Note from asker:
| Çok teşekkürler, M. Ali bey. Ayrıca 'Solicitation to Murder' http://www.primelaw.com.au/Publication-646-Conspiracy_-26_Solicitation_to_Murder.aspx |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Herkese çok teşekkür ederim.
'Soliciting to murder' ya da 'Solicitation to Murder' olarak kullanım buldum."
+1
2 mins
instigate to murder
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veya instigating murder
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Note added at 4 mins (2012-03-12 14:08:27 GMT)
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veya instigating murder
Note from asker:
| Çok teşekkürler, Levent bey. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Nagme Yazgin
: instigating murder'e katiliyorum. Ornek: "Woman accused of instigating murder gets 8 years in robbery"
20 hrs
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+1
9 mins
incitement to murder
azmettirmek icin incitement dogru olur galiba
Note from asker:
| Çok teşekkürler, Gül hn. |
2 hrs
Salih YILDIRIM
United States
United States
Native in Turkish
Works in field
United States
Meticulous, scrupulous, curious work!
Native in: Turkish (Variant: Standard-İstanbul ) 
Works in: Turkish to English, English to Turkish, French to Turkish, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
120
Instigated homicide
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Note from asker:
| Çok teşekkürler, Salih bey. |
+1
2 hrs
Tim Drayton
Cyprus
Cyprus
Native in English
Specializes in field
Cyprus
English, not translationese
Native in: English (Variant: British)
Works in: Turkish to English, German to English
Related KudoZ points
:
240
commissioning murder
I agree that this would be 'incitement to murder' in most contexts; however, here we are talking about the use of a hired killer, which is hardly incitement. I think my proposal may fit the bill. Check the following examples:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ExVNXlI...
“[…]who has served half of a 26-year sentence for commissioning the murder of her ex-husband Maurizio Gucci.”
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,760358,00.h...
“Kress says the normal way of handling a man who is sought globally for commissioning murder would be to arrest him […]”
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'Procurement of murder' is another option. For example:
http://www.azag.gov/CCC/Final-CapPun.pdf
“The new statute provided for a separate sentencing hearing to be held before the trial court, rather than a jury, and enumerated six aggravating circumstances that could be considered in deciding whether to impose a death sentence: (1) prior conviction for which a sentence of life imprisonment or death was imposable; (2) prior serious offense involving the use or threat of violence; (3) grave risk of death to others; (4) procurement of murder by payment or promise of payment […]”
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'Soliciting to kill/murder' also does it for me.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ExVNXlI...
“[…]who has served half of a 26-year sentence for commissioning the murder of her ex-husband Maurizio Gucci.”
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,760358,00.h...
“Kress says the normal way of handling a man who is sought globally for commissioning murder would be to arrest him […]”
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Note added at 2 hrs (2012-03-12 16:47:31 GMT)
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'Procurement of murder' is another option. For example:
http://www.azag.gov/CCC/Final-CapPun.pdf
“The new statute provided for a separate sentencing hearing to be held before the trial court, rather than a jury, and enumerated six aggravating circumstances that could be considered in deciding whether to impose a death sentence: (1) prior conviction for which a sentence of life imprisonment or death was imposable; (2) prior serious offense involving the use or threat of violence; (3) grave risk of death to others; (4) procurement of murder by payment or promise of payment […]”
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'Soliciting to kill/murder' also does it for me.
Note from asker:
| Thanks a million, Tim. How about "soliciting to murder"? This one also involves the use of a hired killer. http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/1020/1224306125476.html |
| It appears that there is more than just one "correct" answer to this question. Many thanks, Tim. |
Discussion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_murder
"A proxy murder is a murder in which the murderer does so at the behest of another, acting as his or her proxy.
[…]
The person instigating a proxy murder may or may not be legally guilty of the crime of murder; this legal distinction varies by nation (and within the United States, by state). However, all jurisdictions recognize the criminal nature of the actions taken by the instigator, and they may be charged under any of a variety of statutes, including murder, conspiracy to commit murder, and/or accessory to murder."
The root of the problem, of course, is that common law jurisdictions have a different approach to such crimes. Only a lawyer can comment definitively, but it seems to me that in common law jurisdictions a person who hires a killer is guilty of murder itself and not of any related offence, which explains the absence of any one clear cognate term.