Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
entradas y salidas
English translation:
income and expenditure
Added to glossary by
peter jackson
May 31, 2014 05:50
10 yrs ago
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Spanish term
entradas y salidas
Spanish to English
Social Sciences
History
accounting
I am sure this is easy but I am getting more than a little confused due to the plethora of differnt terms used by XIII century monks!
El más importante era el “Libro de cuentas” (AHN, Clero, libro 23). Se divide en dos partes donde van haciéndose los apuntes de forma simultánea. En la primera se recogen las entradas, que se van incorporando mes a mes, expresando su procedencia. Los apuntes, desde marzo de 1718, los hizo el síndico. En la segunda parte, se registran los gastos o salidas. Entre tales entradas y salidas, se incorporaban cuentas que daban razón de la diferencia de ambas, generándose alcance a favor del convento, en caso de saldo positivo, o a favor del síndico, en caso de saldo negativo, quedando el convento provisionalmente deudor de éste. El síndico era el encargado de la Tesorería y debía apuntar las entradas y salidas en dinero; guardaba los fondos excedentarios y prestaba al convento en caso de ajuste negativo.
El más importante era el “Libro de cuentas” (AHN, Clero, libro 23). Se divide en dos partes donde van haciéndose los apuntes de forma simultánea. En la primera se recogen las entradas, que se van incorporando mes a mes, expresando su procedencia. Los apuntes, desde marzo de 1718, los hizo el síndico. En la segunda parte, se registran los gastos o salidas. Entre tales entradas y salidas, se incorporaban cuentas que daban razón de la diferencia de ambas, generándose alcance a favor del convento, en caso de saldo positivo, o a favor del síndico, en caso de saldo negativo, quedando el convento provisionalmente deudor de éste. El síndico era el encargado de la Tesorería y debía apuntar las entradas y salidas en dinero; guardaba los fondos excedentarios y prestaba al convento en caso de ajuste negativo.
Proposed translations
(English)
3 +7 | income and expenditure | franglish |
3 +2 | incomings and outgoings | Simon Bruni |
4 | receipts and payments | Billh |
4 | earn revenues/donations and expenses | lugoben |
3 | (cash) inflows and outflows | David Brown |
Proposed translations
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income and expenditure
XVIII century...
Peer comment(s):
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Carol Gullidge
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Thanks, Carol. A sunny weekend to you - or is it just wishful thinking?)
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philgoddard
: All the answers after yours are just synonyms. They should be agreeing with you.
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Thank you, Phil! Chaqu'un a son grin de sel à ajouter...// Right you are, 18th century.
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Simon Bruni
: OK Phil but it's not just about finding the right meaning, is it? Register is important, too. In this case I don't think the meaning was ever in doubt.
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Thanks all the same, Simon! The text to be translated is contemporary though talking about the XVIII century accounts of a convent or monastery.
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Rosa Paredes
: Very straitforward and appropritae register. Saludos.
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Thank you, Rosa. Cheers and a pleasant weekend!
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bigedsenior
: .... expenses
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Thanks Big Ed, another possibility though I favor expenditures
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Thayenga
: :) /// All is good up north (from your location). Hope all is well with you, too. ;)
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Thanks, Thayenga. How is it going up your way?
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Yvonne Gallagher
: No, it's just my name in short , "Gallagher" with "y" for Yvonne! But my name in Irish is Gallchóbhair/Gallachóir which means "foreign (gall) "help" (chóbhair/chóir) or can be translated also as "lover of foreigners":-).
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Thank you, Gallagy. Is there a meaning to your chosen username in Gaelic?//Unless one believes in predestination, le hasard fait bien les choses! Wish I'd have the opportunity to hear and understand this language in the proper setting...
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Many thanks."
46 mins
(cash) inflows and outflows
but I think it may just mean balance sheet(s)
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incomings and outgoings
I think this has a slightly monkish ring to it!
From the Oxford English:
incomings
revenue; income.
outgoings
one's regular expenditure.
From the Oxford English:
incomings
revenue; income.
outgoings
one's regular expenditure.
Peer comment(s):
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James A. Walsh
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Tayssir Azouz
: I would go with this solution to maintain context. Good call!
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receipts and payments
as in eg - search for "receipts and payments"
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=057-...
http://reed.dur.ac.uk/xtf/view?docId=ead/dcd/dcdguide.xml
The Roots of Accounting - Sabinet Reference
reference.sabinet.co.za/webx/access/.../account_2012_n4_a2.pdf
by E Retief - 2012 - Cited by 2
13th century (there is no Roman numeral for zero). the symbols of the decimal ... monthly register of all receipts and payments. often payments would be made by ... monk and mathematician; a contemporary of columbus, and a friend and ...
DEAN AND CHAPTER ARCHIVE - The National Archives ...
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk › Search the archives › Access to Archives
Grant at farm CCA-DCc-ChAnt/Z/65 nd [mid 13th century] ..... esq, receiver of the Court of Augmentations for Kent, containing receipts and payments. ... f23r and a list of pensions paid to the abbot and monks of Boxley Abbey stitched in at f24v.
etc.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=057-...
http://reed.dur.ac.uk/xtf/view?docId=ead/dcd/dcdguide.xml
The Roots of Accounting - Sabinet Reference
reference.sabinet.co.za/webx/access/.../account_2012_n4_a2.pdf
by E Retief - 2012 - Cited by 2
13th century (there is no Roman numeral for zero). the symbols of the decimal ... monthly register of all receipts and payments. often payments would be made by ... monk and mathematician; a contemporary of columbus, and a friend and ...
DEAN AND CHAPTER ARCHIVE - The National Archives ...
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk › Search the archives › Access to Archives
Grant at farm CCA-DCc-ChAnt/Z/65 nd [mid 13th century] ..... esq, receiver of the Court of Augmentations for Kent, containing receipts and payments. ... f23r and a list of pensions paid to the abbot and monks of Boxley Abbey stitched in at f24v.
etc.
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earn revenues/donations and expenses
It is hard to imagine a business type arrangement in such times. Although it may be possible that some of their earnings comes from sales, it is highly probable that any other entry comes from donations, thereby the term indicated.
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