Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
"...las traxeren aquellos de donde ellos vienen"
English translation:
in the form and manner worn by those from where they come
Added to glossary by
Anna Moorby DipTrans
Jan 20, 2007 10:03
17 yrs ago
Spanish term
United Kingdom
Communicate. Collaborate. Connect
Native in: English (Variant: British)
Works in: Spanish to English, English
"...las traxeren aquellos de donde ellos vienen"
Spanish to English
Art/Literary
History
coats of arms
Talking about the right to display certain symbols of nobles' coats of arms:
"los reyes determinaron que "ningún caballero ni otra persona alguna, puesto que sea constituido en qualquier título o dignidad seglar, no traiga ni puedan traer en todos nuestros reinos y señoríos corona sobre el escudo de sus armas, ni traiga las dichas nuestras armas reales, salvo en aquella forma y manera que las traxeren aquellos de donde ellos vienen, a quien fueron primeramente dadas" (Novísima Recopilación de las Leyes de España, Libro VI, Tit. I, Ley XV). "
Can anyone help me unravel that last section please???
thanks
"los reyes determinaron que "ningún caballero ni otra persona alguna, puesto que sea constituido en qualquier título o dignidad seglar, no traiga ni puedan traer en todos nuestros reinos y señoríos corona sobre el escudo de sus armas, ni traiga las dichas nuestras armas reales, salvo en aquella forma y manera que las traxeren aquellos de donde ellos vienen, a quien fueron primeramente dadas" (Novísima Recopilación de las Leyes de España, Libro VI, Tit. I, Ley XV). "
Can anyone help me unravel that last section please???
thanks
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 | To wear or carry |
Gad Kohenov
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| 5 | except as brought by those... |
María Eugenia Wachtendorff
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| 5 | except in the fashion used/worn in the lands where those came from |
momo savino
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Proposed translations
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Gad Kohenov
Israel
Israel
Specializes in field
Israel
30 years of experience+satisfied clients
Native in: French 
, Hebrew
Works in: English to Hebrew, Hebrew to English, French to Hebrew, and 8 more.
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Spanish term (edited):
Traxeren
Selected
To wear or carry
Escudo is coat of arms. I think the very is to wear or carry.
The phrase means something like this: "Except in the form and manner wore by those from where they come".
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Note added at 1 hr (2007-01-20 11:58:01 GMT)
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The "x" was there but was supplenated in Catilian Spanish by the "j". Xeres became jerez . The game of chess is still xadrez in Portuguese but in Spanish its Ajedrez. Mexicans don't like their country being called Mejico by Spaniards [ ::))]. And rightly so, since the Aztecs used 'x' a lot in their language. ! Viva Mexico!
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Note added at 1 hr (2007-01-20 11:59:29 GMT)
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* Castillian* not Catilian *
* Supplanted" and not supplenated*
The phrase means something like this: "Except in the form and manner wore by those from where they come".
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Note added at 1 hr (2007-01-20 11:58:01 GMT)
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The "x" was there but was supplenated in Catilian Spanish by the "j". Xeres became jerez . The game of chess is still xadrez in Portuguese but in Spanish its Ajedrez. Mexicans don't like their country being called Mejico by Spaniards [ ::))]. And rightly so, since the Aztecs used 'x' a lot in their language. ! Viva Mexico!
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Note added at 1 hr (2007-01-20 11:59:29 GMT)
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* Castillian* not Catilian *
* Supplanted" and not supplenated*
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Comment: "thanks everyone"
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María Eugenia Wachtendorff
Chile
Chile
Native in Spanish
Chile
40 Years Business, Legal, Certificates
Native in: Spanish 
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish, Spanish to English
Related KudoZ points
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11
except as brought by those...
Just an old (maybe wrong?) way of spelling "traer"
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Note added at 1 hr (2007-01-20 11:18:47 GMT)
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Meaning "trajeren"
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Note added at 1 hr (2007-01-20 11:18:47 GMT)
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Meaning "trajeren"
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momo savino
Switzerland
Switzerland
Native in Spanish
Works in field
Switzerland
la guinda al pastel
Native in: Italian , Spanish
Works in: Italian, Spanish, Spanish to Italian, and 5 more.
Spanish term (edited):
que las traxeren aquellos de donde ellos vienen
except in the fashion used/worn in the lands where those came from
a quien fueron primeramente dadas = to whom they (the said coats) had been early given
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