Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
esbozar una solicitud de disculpa
English translation:
adopt an apologetic stance
Added to glossary by
Patricia Rosas
Jul 28, 2003 16:16
21 yrs ago
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Spanish term
United States
servicios para autores académicos
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, English
esbozar una solicitud de disculpa
Spanish to English
Other
Government / Politics
political science
From a text on Chile: "Por un lado la perdida de poder político de las Fuerzas Armadas, las que durante los años 2002-2003 han llegado a **esbozar una solicitud de disculpa** a aquellos que se vieron perjudicados por el accionar del ejercito durante el gobierno militar. Discurso que se contrapone con las iniciales posiciones de las Fuerzas Armadas a comienzos de los 90s, en las que se reivindicaban las acciones desarrolladas por el régimen militar ..."
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Carolingua
United States
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adopt an apologetic stance
whose position in 2002-2003 has been to adopt an apologetic stance towards those who suffered damages...
I agree with the previous entry that it is more an attitude rather than a specific action that is being referred to in this context.
I agree with the previous entry that it is more an attitude rather than a specific action that is being referred to in this context.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you! This seems to get the point across -- and in just a few words. I may combine it with Jane's "went so far as to" (adopt an apologetic stance). This was tough--I wanted to give pts. to nearly everyone, but you were the most helpful. Thanks!"
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Silvia Ferrero
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Localisation, games, marketing, business
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Works in: English to Spanish, French to Spanish, Spanish, and 1 more.
Comment: "Thanks for the help! (Henry seems to have gotten the sense of it.)"
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Clauwolf
Specializes in field
"draw a sorry request"
Declined
:)
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Gordana Podvezanec
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margaret caulfield
: Sorry. This doesn't make sense in English, but good try!
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Comment: "The phrase doesn't make much sense in English--thanks for trying!"
+3
52 mins
went so far as to draft a written apology
Declined
I think that might be a good way to say it....
Comment: "Thanks for trying! I really liked the "went so far as to..." because that is implied in the statement, too. I'll see if there is some way to blend it with Carolingua's answer "went so far as to adopt an apologetic stance..." THANK YOU!"
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1 hr
Henry Hinds
United States
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English
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661
have tended to start becoming apologetic
Declined
...have tended to start becoming apologetic toward people who had been damaged by the army's actions during the military government.
Le di otro giro con algo de libertad.
La idea es un cambio de actitud pero sutil, incipiente.
Le di otro giro con algo de libertad.
La idea es un cambio de actitud pero sutil, incipiente.
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Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
: right! HAd started to become apologetic....we were all wrong..!
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Thanks, Jane. I think also that Andy is getting the idea there.
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Andy Watkinson
: Very kind, Henry. La frase señala el inicio...una especie de "amago de arrepentimiento"
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Algo así... Gracias, Andy.
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Oso (X)
: ¶:^)
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Gracias, Cumpa.
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Walter Pilimon
: The best option
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Gracias, Walter.
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Jorge Rubino
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Gracias, Jorge.
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Comment: "Henry,
Thank you for your insight. You confirmed what I sensed: this is a "stance" not a written statement. Unfortunately, there are so many good answers -- if I could allocated out points, you'd definitely get a few! Thanks for all your assistance!"
+2
1 hr
those very Forces which during...have, if only tentatively, sought forgiveness from
Declined
...those who suffered, etc.......
Entiendo que aquí "esbozar" no se refiere a la redacción de documento alguno (sin perjuicio de que, por otra parte, alguno lo haya sido), sino al modo en que se hizo.
De ahí "tentatively" - al igual que un esbozo - para ver como queda, sondear la reacción, dar los primeros pasos, etc....
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Note added at 1 hr 48 mins (2003-07-28 18:04:37 GMT)
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Lo digo porque los militares evidentemente no se han lanzado a una disculpa masiva y convencida sino todo lo contrario. Ir más bien \"probando el terreno\" para ver hasta qué punto habían de ceder y responder a las presiones contradictorias dentro de las mismas fuerzas.
Entiendo que aquí "esbozar" no se refiere a la redacción de documento alguno (sin perjuicio de que, por otra parte, alguno lo haya sido), sino al modo en que se hizo.
De ahí "tentatively" - al igual que un esbozo - para ver como queda, sondear la reacción, dar los primeros pasos, etc....
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Note added at 1 hr 48 mins (2003-07-28 18:04:37 GMT)
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Lo digo porque los militares evidentemente no se han lanzado a una disculpa masiva y convencida sino todo lo contrario. Ir más bien \"probando el terreno\" para ver hasta qué punto habían de ceder y responder a las presiones contradictorias dentro de las mismas fuerzas.
Comment: "This was beautifully stated, and if I could give you some points I would! I am not going with it for one small reason: my sense is that they didn't actually "ask for forgiveness" -- it was more a political position or stance that was taken. THANK YOU anyway!"
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margaret caulfield
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Related KudoZ points
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76
have actually reached a point where they asked for their apologies to be accepted
Declined
My sincerest opinion.
Comment: "These were all so close to "right" -- I don't know which to pick (our inability to allocate points to many people is just so frustrating!). Thanks for your help!"
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