Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
corte del neutro
English translation:
open neutral
Added to glossary by
Simon Bruni
Sep 16, 2008 17:37
15 yrs ago
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Spanish term
United Kingdom
corte del neutro
Spanish to English
Tech/Engineering
Electronics / Elect Eng
Hello. This is the cause for damage to an electrical installation, from an insurance claim:
"Corte del neutro en la alimentación eléctrica de un cuadro de alumbrado".
Thanks for your help :)
"Corte del neutro en la alimentación eléctrica de un cuadro de alumbrado".
Thanks for your help :)
Proposed translations
(English)
| 5 +1 | open neutral |
Daniel Coria
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| 5 +1 | shorted neutra |
Carlos Ordaz
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| 3 +1 | cut the neutral wire |
liz askew
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| 2 -1 | short circuit |
S Ben Price
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Proposed translations
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53 mins
Daniel Coria
Argentina
Argentina
Native in Spanish
Works in field
Argentina
Premium English Spanish Translations
Native in: Spanish (Variants: Latin American, US) 
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish
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open neutral
"Corte del neutro" significa que el neutro (sea en corriente estándar o trifásica) se encuentra desconectado.
An open neutral simply means that neutral, or common wire is not connected somewhere. If for example you test a outlet in a room, and the tester shows that you have an open neutral, Then somewhere along the circuit the neutral is not connected properly. In rooms most outlets are connected in series to each other, so if you have an open neutral in one outlet, it can affect all the other outlets too. To check for an open neutral just take a test light and check between the hot and neutral wires, if it lights up, then your fine. If it doesn't then try testing between the hot and ground......if your tester lights up, then you have an open neutral.
http://www.faqs.org/qa/qa-10961.html
17 Aug 2005 ... An open neutral conditon can cause great damage, which has not occured yet due to the ground acting as a return. ...
http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/electrical-lighting/open-neutra...
[0025] A partially open neutral (i.e. loose connection) can arc, leading to further damage in the vicinity of the connection and fire hazard. ...
http://www.freshpatents.com/Method-and-apparatus-for-open-ne...
28 Mar 2006 ... An open neutral can damage electronics, so I would insist this be corrected immediately. The structure would most likely not receive...
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Electrical-Wiring-Home-1734/open-...
This open neutral issue is a serious potential problem every time we connect to a 50-amp outlet. In this case I was able to prove that the damage done to ...
http://www.myrv.us/electric/Pg/open_neutral.htm
http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&client=op...
My 2 cents...
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Note added at 3 hrs (2008-09-16 21:34:47 GMT)
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Lo que suele provocar problemas o daños (como puede verse en las referencias) es un "open neutral", es decir, el corte o desconexión del neutro.
An open neutral simply means that neutral, or common wire is not connected somewhere. If for example you test a outlet in a room, and the tester shows that you have an open neutral, Then somewhere along the circuit the neutral is not connected properly. In rooms most outlets are connected in series to each other, so if you have an open neutral in one outlet, it can affect all the other outlets too. To check for an open neutral just take a test light and check between the hot and neutral wires, if it lights up, then your fine. If it doesn't then try testing between the hot and ground......if your tester lights up, then you have an open neutral.
http://www.faqs.org/qa/qa-10961.html
17 Aug 2005 ... An open neutral conditon can cause great damage, which has not occured yet due to the ground acting as a return. ...
http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/electrical-lighting/open-neutra...
[0025] A partially open neutral (i.e. loose connection) can arc, leading to further damage in the vicinity of the connection and fire hazard. ...
http://www.freshpatents.com/Method-and-apparatus-for-open-ne...
28 Mar 2006 ... An open neutral can damage electronics, so I would insist this be corrected immediately. The structure would most likely not receive...
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Electrical-Wiring-Home-1734/open-...
This open neutral issue is a serious potential problem every time we connect to a 50-amp outlet. In this case I was able to prove that the damage done to ...
http://www.myrv.us/electric/Pg/open_neutral.htm
http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&client=op...
My 2 cents...
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Note added at 3 hrs (2008-09-16 21:34:47 GMT)
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Lo que suele provocar problemas o daños (como puede verse en las referencias) es un "open neutral", es decir, el corte o desconexión del neutro.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
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3 mins
Carlos Ordaz
United States
United States
Native in Spanish
&
English
Specializes in field
United States
Eng/MBA/Part time translator
Native in: English 
, Spanish
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English
shorted neutra
shorted neutral condition
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
José J. Martínez
: neutral pole
20 mins
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| disagree |
Daniel Coria
: Hola Carlos. No es "corto" (short-circuit o shorted) sino "corte" del neutro. Significa que el neutro está desconectado. Ver mis referencias abajo. Saludos!
51 mins
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cierto... me falló la vista
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| agree |
Carolina Ruiz
: Coincido con José.
1 hr
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-1
24 mins
S Ben Price
Spain
Spain
Native in English
Spain
+34 669 829 437 [email protected]
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, German to English, Catalan to English
short circuit
Neutral could refer to ground (USA) or earth (UK). "A short circuit in the power supply for a lighting switch/circuit."
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Daniel Coria
: Hi Price. Same comment here; the neutral (neither ground nor earth) is not shorted. It's simply disconnected/open. See my references below. Saludos/Regards!
31 mins
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I doubted this myself. The word that makes me wonder is "corto".
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+1
1 hr
cut the neutral wire
Difference between live and neutral wire - Printable Version
Many switches for example only cut the live wire (single pole). Again, if they would cut the neutral wire then no electricity will flow to the light bulb, ...
www.msghelp.net/printthread.php?tid=85278 - 10k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-09-16 18:51:28 GMT)
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Install the controls and wire them as shown. Use the following guidelines:
• important:
80 cfm fans must use SMSC80 control.
110 cfm fans must use SMSC110 control.
• Use minimum 75
0
C rated electrical wiring cable.
• The controls install like normal switches except for the need of a neutral wire. Run
the neutral wire to each wall control location. This may be a code requirement or
a regular practice in your area - but unless explicitly specified, it may be omit-
ted. This control will consume energy and needs a neutral wire to complete the
circuit.
• Specify the installation of deep J-boxes in all locations where the communicating
controls will be used. While the Broan SmartSense
®
controls will fit in the spacing
offered by all North American electrical boxes, the deep models have extra work-
ing space and make the installation go a little easier. deep boxes only cost a few
cents more than normal depth models. look for single-gang boxes that are 22 cu.
in. or higher and double-gang boxes that are 36 cu. in. or higher.
• All controls and coupler must be grounded.
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-09-16 18:52:11 GMT)
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as in
corte =
interrupción
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-09-16 18:55:01 GMT)
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VII Neutral monitoring with CM-MPS
The CM-MPS detects the interruption of the neutral in the main to be
monitored by means of phase unbalance evaluation. Determined by
the system, in case of unloaded neutral, i.e. symmetrical load
between all three phases, it may happen that an interruption of the
neutral will not be detected.
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-09-16 18:57:20 GMT)
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I suppose, at a pinch, you could say "failure of the grounded/neutral wire"
Ground Wire
Electrical circuit ground wire. ... An intentionally grounded wire that completes a circuit should a neutral wire fail. Typically a green wire. ...
homerepair.about.com/od/termsgn/g/gloss_ground_w.htm - 19k - Cached - Similar pages
Good luck!
Many switches for example only cut the live wire (single pole). Again, if they would cut the neutral wire then no electricity will flow to the light bulb, ...
www.msghelp.net/printthread.php?tid=85278 - 10k - Cached - Similar pages
--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 1 hr (2008-09-16 18:51:28 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------
Install the controls and wire them as shown. Use the following guidelines:
• important:
80 cfm fans must use SMSC80 control.
110 cfm fans must use SMSC110 control.
• Use minimum 75
0
C rated electrical wiring cable.
• The controls install like normal switches except for the need of a neutral wire. Run
the neutral wire to each wall control location. This may be a code requirement or
a regular practice in your area - but unless explicitly specified, it may be omit-
ted. This control will consume energy and needs a neutral wire to complete the
circuit.
• Specify the installation of deep J-boxes in all locations where the communicating
controls will be used. While the Broan SmartSense
®
controls will fit in the spacing
offered by all North American electrical boxes, the deep models have extra work-
ing space and make the installation go a little easier. deep boxes only cost a few
cents more than normal depth models. look for single-gang boxes that are 22 cu.
in. or higher and double-gang boxes that are 36 cu. in. or higher.
• All controls and coupler must be grounded.
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-09-16 18:52:11 GMT)
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as in
corte =
interrupción
--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 1 hr (2008-09-16 18:55:01 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------
VII Neutral monitoring with CM-MPS
The CM-MPS detects the interruption of the neutral in the main to be
monitored by means of phase unbalance evaluation. Determined by
the system, in case of unloaded neutral, i.e. symmetrical load
between all three phases, it may happen that an interruption of the
neutral will not be detected.
--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 1 hr (2008-09-16 18:57:20 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------
I suppose, at a pinch, you could say "failure of the grounded/neutral wire"
Ground Wire
Electrical circuit ground wire. ... An intentionally grounded wire that completes a circuit should a neutral wire fail. Typically a green wire. ...
homerepair.about.com/od/termsgn/g/gloss_ground_w.htm - 19k - Cached - Similar pages
Good luck!
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Julio Bereciartu
: yes, somebody cut it.
1 hr
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| neutral |
Daniel Coria
: Hi Liz. I'm an electrician myself and as a native Spanish speaker I can tell you that "corte" does not mean it was "necessarily" cut by someone. It is just "open" (whether cut by someone or disconnected by accident or for any other reason). Saludos!
2 hrs
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Strange though as you say in brackets "whether cut by someone..."?
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Reference comments
1 hr
Reference:
Resumen
En ocasiones se achacan a la interrupción del neutro ciertas averías que se
producen en las instalaciones eléctricas. Para contribuir a aclarar las
consecuencias que sobre la carga provoca el corte del conductor neutro de las
líneas de distribución, se cuantifican en este artículo las sobretensiones
producidas por esta causa. Se particulariza el análisis para instalaciones de
alumbrado
En ocasiones se achacan a la interrupción del neutro ciertas averías que se
producen en las instalaciones eléctricas. Para contribuir a aclarar las
consecuencias que sobre la carga provoca el corte del conductor neutro de las
líneas de distribución, se cuantifican en este artículo las sobretensiones
producidas por esta causa. Se particulariza el análisis para instalaciones de
alumbrado
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