May 7, 2009 18:04
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Spanish term
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gracilidad
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palaeontology
I need some help translating this word in this context:
Al igual que los metacarpos, los metatarsos corresponden a un elemento diagnóstico para la identificación de Lama gracilis debido a su longitud intermedia entre guanaco y vicuña y a la gracilidad característica de los metapodios. Tales rasgos son observados en la muestra que comprende dos metatarsos casi completos producto de que las epífisis distales se encuentran sin fusionar.
Al igual que los metacarpos, los metatarsos corresponden a un elemento diagnóstico para la identificación de Lama gracilis debido a su longitud intermedia entre guanaco y vicuña y a la gracilidad característica de los metapodios. Tales rasgos son observados en la muestra que comprende dos metatarsos casi completos producto de que las epífisis distales se encuentran sin fusionar.
Proposed translations
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| 5 +1 | gracile |
Kathryn Litherland
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| 5 +1 | gracileness |
Richard McDorman
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| 4 +1 | slenderness |
MPGS
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| 4 +1 | gracefulness |
James A. Walsh
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| 4 -1 | gracefulness |
liz askew
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Kathryn Litherland
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gracile
Personally, I'd restructure it to use "gracile" rather than gracileness. Something like "its characteristically gracile metapodials."
The hipparions (Mammalia, Equidae) from Gülpinar (Canakkale, Turkey)
Adriano, Q4 and Q5, especially the long, gracile metapodials (Fig. 6). The gracile metapodials from Samos have usually been referred to the species H. ...
www.springerlink.com/index/53221318Q378W434.pdf
Rapid body size decline in Alaskan Pleistocene horses before ...
In contrast, fossils of the other equid Alaskan species have unusually long gracile metapodials, making them similar to the living Equus hemionus from ...
www.nature.com/nature/journal/v426/n6963/full/nature02098.h...
Quaternary International : Phylogeny of the giant deer with ...
Though some species of Elaphurus, that retained relatively gracile metapodials, might have been ancestral to S. pachyosteus, there is no convincing evidence ...
linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S1040618207002479
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Richard's suggestion of gracileness is also in the correct spirit of the context, but if you do a Google book search for the term, for example, you'll find that very few authors employ it in the noun form.
Hence, I suggest minor grammatical restructuring to express the idea in a way that mirrors the way native speakers of English write about gracile metapoidals.
The hipparions (Mammalia, Equidae) from Gülpinar (Canakkale, Turkey)
Adriano, Q4 and Q5, especially the long, gracile metapodials (Fig. 6). The gracile metapodials from Samos have usually been referred to the species H. ...
www.springerlink.com/index/53221318Q378W434.pdf
Rapid body size decline in Alaskan Pleistocene horses before ...
In contrast, fossils of the other equid Alaskan species have unusually long gracile metapodials, making them similar to the living Equus hemionus from ...
www.nature.com/nature/journal/v426/n6963/full/nature02098.h...
Quaternary International : Phylogeny of the giant deer with ...
Though some species of Elaphurus, that retained relatively gracile metapodials, might have been ancestral to S. pachyosteus, there is no convincing evidence ...
linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S1040618207002479
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Note added at 37 mins (2009-05-07 18:41:23 GMT)
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Richard's suggestion of gracileness is also in the correct spirit of the context, but if you do a Google book search for the term, for example, you'll find that very few authors employ it in the noun form.
Hence, I suggest minor grammatical restructuring to express the idea in a way that mirrors the way native speakers of English write about gracile metapoidals.
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Comment: "This is fantastic. Thank you for your research!! "
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slenderness
hih
:)
slenderly - in a slim or slender manner; "a slenderly built woman"; "slightly built"
# slenderly - meagerly: to a meager degree or in a meager manner;
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
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slenderly - in a slim or slender manner; "a slenderly built woman"; "slightly built"
# slenderly - meagerly: to a meager degree or in a meager manner;
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
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liz askew
: "slenderness" works too. Here is the evidence that it is used in palaeontology. http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=slenderness dinosaurs&hl=en... is an ultimate authority on the English language, IMHO.
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thx a lot, liz :)
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Richard McDorman
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gracileness
This is a technical term used in physical anthropology and archaeology that contrasts with "robustness." It is used to describe certain hominid skeletal types.
Example sentence:
The lack of a prominent supraorbital tori and gonial angle indicated a female along with the over all gracileness of the skeleton.
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liz askew
: hi, if you are a palaeontologist, then fair enough if this is what you use in the field. But it is not reflected on any academic sites re this subject.//I DO agree with "gracility":-) FWIW.Journal of Dinosaur Paleontology
19 Sep 2006 ... JOURNAL OF DIN
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Actually, "gracility" would probably have been a better choice, but I agree with you that using the nominal form will result in a better English translation.
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James A. Walsh
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gracefulness
Comunidad As » Contracrónicas del Real Madrid » El juego de las ...
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13 Abr 2009 ... Fluidez de la circulación de balón: Cuando el Barça tiene el balón en su poder éste circula con gran fluidez, con gracilidad, ...
lacomunidad.as.com/contracronicas/2009/4/13/el-juego-las-siete-diferencias-contracronica-del-real-madrid - 27k - Cached - Similar pages
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gracile - definition of gracile by the Free Online Dictionary ...
Adj. 1. gracile - slender and graceful. willowy · graceful - characterized by beauty of movement, style, form, or execution ...
www.thefreedictionary.com/gracile - 33k - Cached - Similar pages
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Action plan for Orthodontium gracile
Slender Thread-moss (Orthodontium gracile). Current status; Current factors causing loss or decline; Current action; Action plan objectives and targets ...
www.ukbap.org.uk/UKPlans.aspx?ID=485 - 54k - Cached - Similar pages
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&as_q=gracilidad gracefu...
"gracilidad" en el diccionario Español-Inglés
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gracilidad sf gracefulness, grace. Archivo »Reverso Noticias. Reverso PowerTools · Realice traducciones de alta calidad con Reverso Intranet o Reverso Pro ...
diccionario.reverso.net/espanol-ingles/gracilidad - Similar pages
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hi
you could always turn this around and
put
graceful characteristics...
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Note added at 36 mins (2009-05-07 18:40:41 GMT)
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Resources by Subject - Biological Sciences - The University of ...
Gracile: Graceful/light – often used in palaeontology to describe skull/skeletal morphology. Grade (in cladistics): Group of organisms sharing the same ...
www.library.auckland.ac.nz/subjects/bio/bio_time_line.htm - 65k - Cached - Similar pages
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linguistic support for "gracility", from eminent sources
Pliocene femur of Theropithecus from the Luangwa Valley, Zambia ...
c Department of Palaeontology, Natural History Museum, London SW7 5BD, UK .... The gracility of the specimen, along with the relatively long femoral neck ...
linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0047248402001987 - Similar pages
by S Elton - 2003 - Cited by 2 - Related articles
Journal of Dinosaur Paleontology
19 Sep 2006 ... JOURNAL OF DINOSAUR PALEONTOLOGY .... Gracility and Speed of T. rex. Nanotyrannus; Gigadispute. Discussion of the phylogeny and anatomy of ...
www.dinosauria.com/jdp/jdp.htm - 24k - Cached - Similar pages
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Cached - Similar pages
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The Human Fossil Record: Brain endocasts : the paleoneurological ... - Google Books Result
by Ralph L. Holloway, Jeffrey H. Schwartz ... - 2004 - Science - 315 pages
OH 13 The main significance of this endocranial reconstruction relates to its high cranial capacity given its cranial gracility, high cerebral height above ...
books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=0471418234...
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by SK Donovan - 2007 - Related articles
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People -- EA
... S.E., Endocrine models of skeletal robusticity and the origins of gracility, ..... Association for the Study of Human Palaeontology, Johannesburg (June, ...
fds.duke.edu/db/aas/BAA/faculty/churchy/publications - 43k - Cached - Similar pages
fossrecglosterms
... part of The Museum of Palaeontology, University of California, Berkeley. ... But then "robustness" and "gracility" are not just a matter of weight or ...
www.lifesci.sussex.ac.uk/teaching/C1014/frglos.html - Similar pages
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Note added at 1 hr (2009-05-07 19:05:51 GMT)
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BTW
both graceful AND gracile can be used equally re palaeontology:
http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:xLuAuYaohKUJ:www.kheper...
One of the great wonders of the English language is its versatility:-)
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13 Abr 2009 ... Fluidez de la circulación de balón: Cuando el Barça tiene el balón en su poder éste circula con gran fluidez, con gracilidad, ...
lacomunidad.as.com/contracronicas/2009/4/13/el-juego-las-siete-diferencias-contracronica-del-real-madrid - 27k - Cached - Similar pages
#
gracile - definition of gracile by the Free Online Dictionary ...
Adj. 1. gracile - slender and graceful. willowy · graceful - characterized by beauty of movement, style, form, or execution ...
www.thefreedictionary.com/gracile - 33k - Cached - Similar pages
#
Action plan for Orthodontium gracile
Slender Thread-moss (Orthodontium gracile). Current status; Current factors causing loss or decline; Current action; Action plan objectives and targets ...
www.ukbap.org.uk/UKPlans.aspx?ID=485 - 54k - Cached - Similar pages
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&as_q=gracilidad gracefu...
"gracilidad" en el diccionario Español-Inglés
- [ Translate this page ]
gracilidad sf gracefulness, grace. Archivo »Reverso Noticias. Reverso PowerTools · Realice traducciones de alta calidad con Reverso Intranet o Reverso Pro ...
diccionario.reverso.net/espanol-ingles/gracilidad - Similar pages
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Note added at 27 mins (2009-05-07 18:31:47 GMT)
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hi
you could always turn this around and
put
graceful characteristics...
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Note added at 36 mins (2009-05-07 18:40:41 GMT)
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Resources by Subject - Biological Sciences - The University of ...
Gracile: Graceful/light – often used in palaeontology to describe skull/skeletal morphology. Grade (in cladistics): Group of organisms sharing the same ...
www.library.auckland.ac.nz/subjects/bio/bio_time_line.htm - 65k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 55 mins (2009-05-07 18:59:27 GMT)
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linguistic support for "gracility", from eminent sources
Pliocene femur of Theropithecus from the Luangwa Valley, Zambia ...
c Department of Palaeontology, Natural History Museum, London SW7 5BD, UK .... The gracility of the specimen, along with the relatively long femoral neck ...
linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0047248402001987 - Similar pages
by S Elton - 2003 - Cited by 2 - Related articles
Journal of Dinosaur Paleontology
19 Sep 2006 ... JOURNAL OF DINOSAUR PALEONTOLOGY .... Gracility and Speed of T. rex. Nanotyrannus; Gigadispute. Discussion of the phylogeny and anatomy of ...
www.dinosauria.com/jdp/jdp.htm - 24k - Cached - Similar pages
#
Cached - Similar pages
#
The Human Fossil Record: Brain endocasts : the paleoneurological ... - Google Books Result
by Ralph L. Holloway, Jeffrey H. Schwartz ... - 2004 - Science - 315 pages
OH 13 The main significance of this endocranial reconstruction relates to its high cranial capacity given its cranial gracility, high cerebral height above ...
books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=0471418234...
#
by SK Donovan - 2007 - Related articles
#
People -- EA
... S.E., Endocrine models of skeletal robusticity and the origins of gracility, ..... Association for the Study of Human Palaeontology, Johannesburg (June, ...
fds.duke.edu/db/aas/BAA/faculty/churchy/publications - 43k - Cached - Similar pages
fossrecglosterms
... part of The Museum of Palaeontology, University of California, Berkeley. ... But then "robustness" and "gracility" are not just a matter of weight or ...
www.lifesci.sussex.ac.uk/teaching/C1014/frglos.html - Similar pages
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Note added at 1 hr (2009-05-07 19:05:51 GMT)
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BTW
both graceful AND gracile can be used equally re palaeontology:
http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:xLuAuYaohKUJ:www.kheper...
One of the great wonders of the English language is its versatility:-)
Peer comment(s):
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Richard McDorman
: The problem is that "gracileness" is a term of art. Although in a more general context, "slenderness" or "gracefulness" could work, this is a discipline-specific term that has a very specific meaning in the archaeological literature.
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and the problem is that I am unable to find "gracileness" on any site re palaeontology:-); only in online dictionaries.
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Kathryn Litherland
: in paleontology, gracile does indeed mean slender, slight, or delicate bone structures, but that does not mean that the terms slender, slight, delicate, or graceful can be substituted for it in a technical text.
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Are you telling me that it is 100% forbidden by the experts to use "gracefulness"??//Are you an expert in this subject?
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