Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Portuguese term or phrase:
bloco fônico
English translation:
prosodic unit
Added to glossary by
zabrowa
Apr 24, 2007 10:54
17 yrs ago
Portuguese term
bloco fônico
Portuguese to English
Science
Linguistics
phonology
O termo palavra/frase fonológica é usado neste trabalho para representar uma seqüência de formas, muitas com independência lexical, que ocorrem em apenas um bloco fônico, o qual é sensível à aplicação das mesmas regras fonológicas que ocorrem no interior da palavra.
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The term phonological word/phrase is used in this manuscript to represent a sequence of forms, many of which are lexically independent, that occur in only one phonic block, which is sensitive to the application of the same phonological rules that occur word-internally.
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The term phonological word/phrase is used in this manuscript to represent a sequence of forms, many of which are lexically independent, that occur in only one phonic block, which is sensitive to the application of the same phonological rules that occur word-internally.
Proposed translations
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2 +1 | sound unit/stretch of sound | Peter Shortall |
5 | phonological chunk | Muriel Vasconcellos |
4 | phonetic set | Adriana Fonseca |
3 | phonetically unique block | T o b i a s |
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Apr 24, 2007 10:54: changed "Kudoz queue" from "In queue" to "Public"
Proposed translations
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sound unit/stretch of sound
I *think* I know what they're talking about, but "block" has a different meaning in phonology in English and that's why I'd rather avoid it. Rules are thought of as applying in "blocks" in lexical phonology (blocks of rules - first one block of rules applies, then another), but that's definitely not what they mean here. They seem to be talking about the phonological word/phrase as a stretch of sound, or unit if you like - I've certainly heard them described as "units" in prosodic phonology often enough, but never "blocks".
I toyed with "phonic unit" at first, but I can't find any convincing references for it and also found one definition according to which it is merely a phone (much too small) - so I think I'd go with either "sound unit" or "stretch of sound".
Here are a couple of sites where they describe the phonological word/phrase as a "sound unit":
"A word has different properties depending on whether you're looking at it phonologically, morphologically, syntactically or semantically. Essentially, we end up with two different notions of word: a listeme — a sound-meaning correspondence — and a phonological word, a *sound unit* on which the spacing conventions of written English are based."
http://dingo.sbs.arizona.edu/~hharley/PDFs/WordsBook/Chapter...
"We can also consider the phonological hierarchy, which is a different, parallel hierarchy which focuses on the sound patterns in a sentence. In this, we have the additional units of syllables, which are a structural sound unit used to group phonemes together; and phonological phrases, another structural *sound unit* that groups words together within the sentence."
http://mi.eng.cam.ac.uk/~pat40/ttsbook_draft_2.pdf
And I'd precede it with "a single" (don't really think it needs "only/merely"); I'd also leave out the comma after it.
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An example of a phonological phrase in my textbook is:
"On Tuesdays he gives [the Chinese dishes]..."
where "Chinese" modifies "dishes". But if it means "he gives dishes to the Chinese people", it splits into two phonological phrases (because the stress pattern is different - the second syllable of "Chinese" now bears the primary stress, not the first):
"On Tuesdays he gives [the Chinese] [dishes]"
An odd example, but there you go!
I toyed with "phonic unit" at first, but I can't find any convincing references for it and also found one definition according to which it is merely a phone (much too small) - so I think I'd go with either "sound unit" or "stretch of sound".
Here are a couple of sites where they describe the phonological word/phrase as a "sound unit":
"A word has different properties depending on whether you're looking at it phonologically, morphologically, syntactically or semantically. Essentially, we end up with two different notions of word: a listeme — a sound-meaning correspondence — and a phonological word, a *sound unit* on which the spacing conventions of written English are based."
http://dingo.sbs.arizona.edu/~hharley/PDFs/WordsBook/Chapter...
"We can also consider the phonological hierarchy, which is a different, parallel hierarchy which focuses on the sound patterns in a sentence. In this, we have the additional units of syllables, which are a structural sound unit used to group phonemes together; and phonological phrases, another structural *sound unit* that groups words together within the sentence."
http://mi.eng.cam.ac.uk/~pat40/ttsbook_draft_2.pdf
And I'd precede it with "a single" (don't really think it needs "only/merely"); I'd also leave out the comma after it.
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Note added at 10 hrs (2007-04-24 21:12:33 GMT)
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An example of a phonological phrase in my textbook is:
"On Tuesdays he gives [the Chinese dishes]..."
where "Chinese" modifies "dishes". But if it means "he gives dishes to the Chinese people", it splits into two phonological phrases (because the stress pattern is different - the second syllable of "Chinese" now bears the primary stress, not the first):
"On Tuesdays he gives [the Chinese] [dishes]"
An odd example, but there you go!
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "I think you got closest with "phonic/sound unit". Actually, I'm going with "prosodic unit""
51 mins
phonetic set
suggestion
7 hrs
phonetically unique block
I think 'bloco fônico' is a bit ambiguous.
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Peter Shortall
: I agree "bloco" is odd, but in that link they seem to be using "blocks" to mean sequences of 2 or more Chinese characters which make up words and are either homophonous (rarely) or can be pronounced in different ways -nothing to do with prosodic phonology
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phonological chunk
Hamilton (1999), where he used the term ‘phonological chunk’. It is an important difference to draw,. especially since the lexical view of language ...
www.ihworld.com/ihjournal/articles/09MUSICOFENGLISH.pdf
There are three crucial levels of representation: the Phoneme Layer, a level of output phonology at which phonemes are represented; **the Phonological Chunk** ...
citeseer.ist.psu.edu/682566.html
... and so it travels wherever the verb goes (a kind of adhesive clue has been applied **tying the clitic to the verb stem forming one phonological chunk**). ...
www.csun.edu/~galasso/completehandbook6.htm
Firstly, they assume that IPs are **the largest phonological chunk into which utterances are divided**, and that the boundaries of this chunk may be ...
www.phon.ox.ac.uk/~esther/ch2.doc
nodes in this model are incorporated into the Phonological Chunk Layer, so ... of representations in **the Phonological Chunk Layer**, which in turn spreads ...
taylorandfrancis.metapress.com/index/GEB49VJFTMR0FQH6.pdf
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I found some Italian ones, but now I can't get them back. In my second example, I failed to include the previous text
... many words/phrases in this language can appear **to be one "bloco fonico", ... Firstly, they assume that IPs are **the largest phonological chunk into** ...
ron.proz.com/kudoz/1879844 - 31k - May 2, 2007
Se desejarmos que uma variavel tenha escopo local **(a um bloco. ou chunk)**, devemos declara-la previamente usando a palavra local. Por exemplo: ...
www.tecgraf.puc-rio.br/~lhf/ftp/doc/wjogos04.pdf
www.ihworld.com/ihjournal/articles/09MUSICOFENGLISH.pdf
There are three crucial levels of representation: the Phoneme Layer, a level of output phonology at which phonemes are represented; **the Phonological Chunk** ...
citeseer.ist.psu.edu/682566.html
... and so it travels wherever the verb goes (a kind of adhesive clue has been applied **tying the clitic to the verb stem forming one phonological chunk**). ...
www.csun.edu/~galasso/completehandbook6.htm
Firstly, they assume that IPs are **the largest phonological chunk into which utterances are divided**, and that the boundaries of this chunk may be ...
www.phon.ox.ac.uk/~esther/ch2.doc
nodes in this model are incorporated into the Phonological Chunk Layer, so ... of representations in **the Phonological Chunk Layer**, which in turn spreads ...
taylorandfrancis.metapress.com/index/GEB49VJFTMR0FQH6.pdf
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Note added at 9 days (2007-05-03 20:13:54 GMT) Post-grading
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I found some Italian ones, but now I can't get them back. In my second example, I failed to include the previous text
... many words/phrases in this language can appear **to be one "bloco fonico", ... Firstly, they assume that IPs are **the largest phonological chunk into** ...
ron.proz.com/kudoz/1879844 - 31k - May 2, 2007
Se desejarmos que uma variavel tenha escopo local **(a um bloco. ou chunk)**, devemos declara-la previamente usando a palavra local. Por exemplo: ...
www.tecgraf.puc-rio.br/~lhf/ftp/doc/wjogos04.pdf
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