Oct 19, 2021 09:43
3 yrs ago
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Portuguese term
D. Pedro I
Portuguese to English
Art/Literary
History
Do we translate "D. Pedro I" from Portuguese to English as "Don Pedro I" or do we just keep it as is?
Proposed translations
(English)
5 | Dom Peter I | Sergio Carré |
5 +4 | Pedro 1 Emporer of Brazil | Nick Taylor |
4 | King Pedro I of Brazil | Angelo Berbotto |
3 | King Pedro I | Ana Vozone |
Proposed translations
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Dom Peter I
Found in Collins dictionary - Dom: (formerly in Portugal and Brazil) a title borne by royalty, princes of the Church, and nobles.
Don is a short form for Donald.
It's not relevant, to answer the question, to understand if @Savio Soares means Peter I of Portugal, Peter I of Brazil (aka Peter IV of Portugal) or Peter I of Russia (aka Pyotr the Great). One can find the names of English Kings written in Portuguese like Jorge IV (https://brasilescola.uol.com.br/historia/elizabeth-ii.htm) or Vitória (https://aventurasnahistoria.uol.com.br/noticias/reportagem/2... and Portuguese Kings written in English like Ferdinand II (https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/term/BIOG208688) ou Louis I (https://www.britannica.com/biography/Louis-king-of-Portugal)...
Don is a short form for Donald.
It's not relevant, to answer the question, to understand if @Savio Soares means Peter I of Portugal, Peter I of Brazil (aka Peter IV of Portugal) or Peter I of Russia (aka Pyotr the Great). One can find the names of English Kings written in Portuguese like Jorge IV (https://brasilescola.uol.com.br/historia/elizabeth-ii.htm) or Vitória (https://aventurasnahistoria.uol.com.br/noticias/reportagem/2... and Portuguese Kings written in English like Ferdinand II (https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/term/BIOG208688) ou Louis I (https://www.britannica.com/biography/Louis-king-of-Portugal)...
Example sentence:
"Originally known as the Imperial Order of the Southern Cross, it was founded on December 1, 1822 by Emperor Dom Peter I of Brazil (IV of Portugal) (...)"
Reference:
https://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/f19/december-2008-newsletter-royal-orders-19319.html#
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
11 mins
King Pedro I
Peer comment(s):
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Angelo Berbotto
: you are quite right, the period needs to be indicated in order to ascertain which Pedro I this is about
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How do you know it is Pedro I of Brazil, and not Pedro I, King of Portugal? I was "betting" on D. Pedro I of Portugal.
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King Pedro I of Brazil
I think you can say "King" in order to make it understood to people who may not know that. He was also Pedro IV of Portugal.
Peer comment(s):
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Douglas Bissell
: He wasn't the king of Brazil though, was he?
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Thank you, I have double checked: Pedro I, Emperor of Brazil and also briefly King Pedro IV of Portugal
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Pedro 1 Emporer of Brazil
Dom Pedro 1 Emporer of Brazil
Dom Pedro I (October 12, 1798–September 24, 1834) was the first Emperor of Brazil and was also Dom Pedro IV, King of Portugal. He is best remembered as the man who declared Brazil independent from Portugal in 1822.
Dom Pedro I (October 12, 1798–September 24, 1834) was the first Emperor of Brazil and was also Dom Pedro IV, King of Portugal. He is best remembered as the man who declared Brazil independent from Portugal in 1822.
Peer comment(s):
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Douglas Bissell
: EmpEror
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Whoops! Cheers Douglas
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Andrew Bramhall
: Also one in Portugal: https://www.thoughtco.com/dom-pedro-i-brazils-first-emperor-...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_I_of_Portugal
30 mins
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true! I just assumed it was Br
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agree |
Simone Taylor
: Emperor, not Emporer but agree
37 mins
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Whoops! Thanks Simone :-)
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agree |
Katarina Peters
: Emperor
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Of course :- Thanks Katarina.
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Oliver Simões
: I concur with Oliver Toogood and Ana Vozone. There is no context to draw any conclusion whatsoever. It could go either way: of Portugal or Brazil. We need context.
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true! I just assumed it was Br
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agree |
Muriel Vasconcellos
: Drop the "Dom" in English. He was also Pedro IV of Portugal before he escaped to Brazil.
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