Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Japanese term or phrase:
再話者
English translation:
as retold by....
Added to glossary by
Jason Grimes
Jul 6, 2003 14:12
21 yrs ago
Japanese term
再話者
Japanese to English
Art/Literary
As in 本の再話者. The book in question appears to be a compilation, which may explain the combination of ideas of repeating and narration.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 | as retold by.... |
Manako Ihaya
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| 5 +2 | re-writer/re-teller |
Hirohisa Oda
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| 5 +2 | reteller |
jsl (X)
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Proposed translations
17 hrs
Manako Ihaya
United States
United States
Native in Japanese
&
English
United States
Best of both Japanese and U.S. worlds
Native in: Japanese 
, English
Works in: Japanese to English, English to Japanese
Related KudoZ points
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47
Selected
as retold by....
While "Saiwa-sha" may be a more natural, Japanese way of referring to the person who is retelling a story, in English, AFAIK, it is more natural to refer to such a person as follows: "The tale of Three Little Books as retold by Peter Coles" or something like that.
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Note added at 2003-07-07 07:50:35 (GMT)
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Oops, I of course meant \"Three Little Pigs.\"
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Note added at 2003-07-07 07:50:35 (GMT)
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Oops, I of course meant \"Three Little Pigs.\"
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Ouch. Although Oda-san and Daisuke-san's answers confirm my expectations about the core meaning of this term, the suggestions from both present me with a major problem ... these words do not exist in my dialect of English (UK).
Although I can use the verbs to retell and to rewrite (no hyphens needed) there are no corresponding nouns to describe the person undertaking the activity (source: the Shorter Oxford Dictionary). So Ihaya-san is right, I have to restructure the sentence as suggested to use a verb."
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37 mins
Hirohisa Oda
Native in Japanese
&
English
Bi-lingual English and Japanese team
Native in: Japanese , English
Works in: Japanese to English
Related KudoZ points
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176
re-writer/re-teller
This expression describes an individual who re-writes or re-tells contents, that s/he has already read.
Please refer to the following.
http://homepage2.nifty.com/m-age/ikeuchi/bunsyuu/sakubun5.ht...
For example, a person who writes, "Anderson's fairytales "retold" by so and so, or a person who re-writes to condense information, such as in the Reader's Digest Condensed Books.
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Note added at 2003-07-06 14:56:57 (GMT)
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Depending on the context, 再話者, could be a ¥"storyteller¥" as in one who retells stories that were previously told or read.
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Note added at 2003-07-06 20:09:35 (GMT)
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Mr. Daisuke¥'s information is correct according to the old dictionary use of the word, but you may wish to also consider that recently 再話者 includes the meaning of the ¥"rewriter¥", who rewrites the content of the story to emphasize certain aspects of it or for the purpose of republishing the work. If the context of your translation is from the public¥'s viewpoint, then I would suggest using the term, ¥"reteller¥", but if the context is within the publishing profession, then I would suggest the term, ¥"re-write¥". Please select Mr. Daisuke¥'s entry or mine, as I believe both are good responses.
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Note added at 2003-07-06 20:12:58 (GMT)
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In summary, the best translations are: ¥"reteller¥" or ¥"rewriter¥" depending on your context.
Please refer to the following.
http://homepage2.nifty.com/m-age/ikeuchi/bunsyuu/sakubun5.ht...
For example, a person who writes, "Anderson's fairytales "retold" by so and so, or a person who re-writes to condense information, such as in the Reader's Digest Condensed Books.
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Note added at 2003-07-06 14:56:57 (GMT)
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Depending on the context, 再話者, could be a ¥"storyteller¥" as in one who retells stories that were previously told or read.
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Note added at 2003-07-06 20:09:35 (GMT)
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Mr. Daisuke¥'s information is correct according to the old dictionary use of the word, but you may wish to also consider that recently 再話者 includes the meaning of the ¥"rewriter¥", who rewrites the content of the story to emphasize certain aspects of it or for the purpose of republishing the work. If the context of your translation is from the public¥'s viewpoint, then I would suggest using the term, ¥"reteller¥", but if the context is within the publishing profession, then I would suggest the term, ¥"re-write¥". Please select Mr. Daisuke¥'s entry or mine, as I believe both are good responses.
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Note added at 2003-07-06 20:12:58 (GMT)
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In summary, the best translations are: ¥"reteller¥" or ¥"rewriter¥" depending on your context.
Peer comment(s):
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jsl (X)
: See below: I cannot agree to part of your explanation.
2 hrs
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Thank you for the comment!
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| agree |
jonleask
: Reteller without the dash. Most likely not rewriter.
11 hrs
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Thank you. ありがとうございます。
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| agree |
Kaori Myatt
1 day 52 mins
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Thank you. ありがとうございます。
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3 hrs
reteller
The 大辞林 Japanese Dictionary defines "再話" as "昔からの物語や伝説・民話などを、主として子供向きにわかりやすく書き直すこと". I don't think that Oda-san's definition fits here, since it is the definition of "再話" as in "再話文学".
Anyway, "再話者" is "reteller", not "rewriter" or whatever. "青い花のじゅうたん――テキサス州のむかしばなし" (The Legend of the Bluebonnet: An Old Tale of Texas) is "再話" by Tomie dePaola, and you can find how this "再話" is expressed in English. Although some sites use "The Legend of ... by Tomie dePaola", we can see that many sites use "The Legend of ... retolled by Tomie dePaola". So, "reteller" (without any dash!) is "再話者".
This is also supported by the fact that, in juvenile literature (児童文学), "再話" is "retelling".
http://www.wayo.ac.jp/UNIV/eibun/kuroda/anti/10_nar.html
http://wwwsoc.nii.ac.jp/jseyc/journal/abstract/JSEYC-6.html
http://www.n-fukushi.ac.jp/syllabus/syllabus2001/syakai/soug...
Anyway, "再話者" is "reteller", not "rewriter" or whatever. "青い花のじゅうたん――テキサス州のむかしばなし" (The Legend of the Bluebonnet: An Old Tale of Texas) is "再話" by Tomie dePaola, and you can find how this "再話" is expressed in English. Although some sites use "The Legend of ... by Tomie dePaola", we can see that many sites use "The Legend of ... retolled by Tomie dePaola". So, "reteller" (without any dash!) is "再話者".
This is also supported by the fact that, in juvenile literature (児童文学), "再話" is "retelling".
http://www.wayo.ac.jp/UNIV/eibun/kuroda/anti/10_nar.html
http://wwwsoc.nii.ac.jp/jseyc/journal/abstract/JSEYC-6.html
http://www.n-fukushi.ac.jp/syllabus/syllabus2001/syakai/soug...
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