Apr 23, 2021 07:00
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German term

Kinnspitzenschulterhöhenabstand

German to English Medical Medical (general) Orthopedics
I am translating an orthopaedic expert report and I have the following sentence to translate:

DE:
Kinnspitzenschulterhöhenabstand bei maximaler Drehseitneigung re./li

Can anyone help me find the technical German word for Kinnspitzenschulterhöhenabstand?

Also, I have "Drehseitneigung" as "rotating lateral tilt", unless anyone here can correct me?

Thanks a lot in advance! :)
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Discussion

Kim Metzger May 6, 2021:
Herr Gleim Please explain to native speakers why you think "height distance" is a sensible collocation.
Johannes Gleim Apr 24, 2021:
@ Barbara Would be fine to cite your references.

19. The distance of the elbow to the end of the outstretched fingers is 12 heads.
20. The neck is 1/4 o a head high.
21. The chin to shoulder line is1/4 of one heads length.
22. The chin to shoulder line is 1/4 of one heads length.
http://carvinginnyc.com/facial-and-body-proportions/
(rules for Woodcarvings and other Art of Maura Macaluso)

Human Proportions
• From the chin to the starting of the hair is a tenth part of the figure.
• From the junction of the palm of the hand as far as the tip of the middle finger a tenth part.
• From the chin to the top of the head an eighth part.
https://www.discoveringdavinci.com/human-proportion/
(acc. Leonardo da Vinci)

Last reference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chin does not mention ‘shoulder’

Conclusion: none of the references relate to the subject orthopaedics.

Proposed translations

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chin to shoulder line // distance between chin and shoulder

http://carvinginnyc.com/facial-and-body-proportions/

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https://www.discoveringdavinci.com/human-proportion/

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It is simply the distance, not the 'height distance'.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chin
Peer comment(s):

agree Kim Metzger
3 hrs
Thank you, Kim!
agree Cilian O'Tuama : You'll admit "height distance" is funny though.
4 days
Thank you, Cilian! :-)
agree Harald Moelzer (medical-translator)
10 days
Thank you, Harald!
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7 hrs

chin-sternal distance / chin-sternum distance

Cervical range of movement in relation to neck ... - PubMed
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › ...·
J Reynolds · 2009 · — Additionally, two widely used methods of measuring neck motion, chin-sternal distance and uniplanar goniometer, were assessed against a validated ...

(PDF) Cervical range of movement in relation to neck dimension
https://www.researchgate.net › 242...·
8 abr. 2009 — ... used methods of. measuring neck motion, chin-sternal distance and uniplanar ... commonly used methods of measuring CROM in com-. parison to a validated ... neutral zero position of the head. J Manipulative Physiol Ther.

Cervical range of movement in relation to neck dimension. - Abstract ...
http://europepmc.org › pmc2899663
Additionally, two widely used methods of measuring neck motion, chin-sternal ... notch distance recorded with a tape measure with the head aligned in neutral, full ... Christensen H, Nilsson N. The ability to reproduce the neutral zero position of ...

RANGE OF MOTION - Mobile Physiotherapy Clinic ...
https://mobilephysiotherapyclinic.in › ...
14 dic. 2020 — If your therapist uses a goniometer to measure your range of motion ... The neutral zero method (0 to 180 degree system) is the most widely used method. ... lower edge of the sternal notch and the middle of the tip of the chin.

Definition of anatomical zero positions for assessing shoulder ...
https://bmcmusculoskeletdisord.biomedcentral.com › ...
O Rettig · 2015 · — Repetitive bilateral arm abduction movements of at least 150° range of motion are monitored. ... movements originate from the closed chain mechanism of thorax, ... The Neutral-0-Method describes the examination details primarily for ... of the goniometer in front of the sterno-clavicular joint, one arm of the ...

Additional page for Neutral-O-method - SSS
https://www.sss.gov.ph › sss › DownloadContent
PDF
Measurements of locomotor system (neutral-zero method). Messblatt für den Bewegungsapparat nach der Neutral-O-Methode. Indicate ... Chin-sternum distance.
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6 hrs

chin-point(chin-tip)-shoulder height distance

No problem, it deals with the distance between the tip of the chin and the shoulder, in German "Kinnspitzen-Schulter(höhen)-Abstand", three single words contracted strangely.

chin-tip-shoulder height distance or
distance between the point (tip) of the chin and the shoulder height

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"Schulterhöhe" bezieht sich auf die Höhe des Schlüsselbeins mit seinen Bindegewebeüberdeckungen und der Haut und ergibt sich aus folgenden anatomischen Teilen:

The human shoulder is made up of three bones: the clavicle (collarbone), the scapula (shoulder blade), and the humerus (upper arm bone) as well as associated muscles, ligaments and tendons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoulder

An der Oberseite des Schlüsselbeins setzt der Deltamuskel (Musculus deltoideus) an. Durch dessen kräftigen Zug ist die Knochenoberfläche aufgeraut. Medial an der Unterseite gibt es eine Vertiefung, Impressio ligamenti costoclaviculare, die durch Zug eines Bandes, des Ligamentum costoclaviculare hervorgerufen wird.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlüsselbein

Der Musculus deltoideus (von gr. δελτοειδής deltoeidḗs, „dreieckartig“), auch kurz Deltoideus oder Deltamuskel genannt, ist ein dreieckiger Skelettmuskel. Er liegt wie ein Paket über dem Schultergelenk und verleiht ihm Halt, indem er den Kopf des Oberarmknochens in die Gelenkpfanne drückt. Der Musculus deltoideus ist wesentlich an der Kontur der Schulterregion beteiligt und dient der Hebung des Oberarms.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musculus_deltoideus

Die Fascia deltoidea ist die Faszie, die den Musculus deltoideus bedeckt. Sie ist ventral mit der Fascia pectoralis, dorsal dagegen – wo sie besonders verstärkt ist – mit der Faszie des Musculus infraspinatus und distal mit der Fascia brachii verbunden. Befestigt ist die Fascia deltoidea an der Spina scapulae, am Schlüsselbein und am Acromion.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascia_deltoidea

Faszie, auch Fascie (Entlehnung aus lateinisch fascia ‚Band‘, ‚Bandage‘[1]) bezeichnet die Weichteil-Komponenten des Bindegewebes,
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faszie

Zurück zum Kontext:

Kinnspitzen-Schulterhöhen-Abstand: Der Kinnspitzen-Schulterhöhen-Abstand wurde in cm als die kürzeste erreichbare Stecke zwischen Kinnspitze und Schulterhöhe bei entsprechender Rotationsbewegung des Kopfes nach beiden Seiten gemessen.
https://www.zhb.uni-luebeck.de/epubs/ediss1298.pdf
(Aus einer Dissertation Die dorsoventrale Spondylodese thorakolumbaler Wirbelkörperfrakturen)

Mandibular position at chin-point guided closure, intercuspation and final deglutition in asymptomatic and temporomandibular dysfunction subjects
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10632846/

The problems seen in the jaw are generally as follows:
The jaw is constitutionally small and adjacent to the neck.
The jaw is protruded or recessed.
The tip of the chin is disproportionately small.
The chin tip is long and pointed.
https://www.ekolhospitals.com/en/chin-aesthetics-mentoplasty...
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