Mar 5, 2011 10:59
13 yrs ago
German term

Strahlenwall

German to English Science Archaeology Celtic settlements
Part of the fortifications around a Celtic hillfort. Only time this is mentionned.

Von den Toren bis hinunter zum Berghang zogen sich zudem so genannte Strahlenwälle.

TIA.
Proposed translations (English)
3 +1 radiating wall
Change log

Mar 6, 2011 19:14: Steffen Walter changed "Field" from "Other" to "Science" , "Field (write-in)" from "Celltic settlements" to "Celtic settlements"

Discussion

Helen Shiner Mar 6, 2011:
@ Adam That is a text written by a German author. We have provided plenty of evidence of acceptable translations for these terms.
adamgajlewicz Mar 6, 2011:
@Wendy & Helen I thought you might like to have a look at this link, a dissertation by a professional archeologist http://leute.server.de/wittur/Duens/oppidum.pdf . As I said the words you are trying to translate are normally left untranslated (as shown in the text). If you need to know why you are welcome to contact the author at [email protected] ...

Proposed translations

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radiating wall

This might well be what is meant:
The wedge-shape of many of the stones helps this arrangement. Similarly we see a course like a flat arch in the inner caher, and in some of the other Clare forts. [6] Against the wall were built several small huts of uncertain date; and the foundations of an oval cloghaun, [7] 27 feet x 18 feet, lie 54 feet outside, and S.E. of the fort. The enclosure between the outer and second wall varies, being 54 feet west, 50 feet south, and 60 feet east. [8] It is crossed by several radiating walls much overthrown. The southern runs from the central caher to the outer wall, where is a very small hut or kennel. It enclosed a round hut in the second enclosure. A parallel wall forms a passage with it across the latter space only, and a second hut is built to the left of the opening against the outer face of the second rampart. The second radiating wall runs across both enclosures; the third and fourth are parallel, forming a passage 6 ft. wide from the second to the outer rampart, the more northern crossing the second enclosure to the caher, and in every case the walls are sufficiently perfect to show that no gate existed at either passage.
http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/archaeology/arch_bu...

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Note added at 10 days (2011-03-16 08:34:29 GMT) Post-grading
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Oh well, I think it is the radiating that counts.
Note from asker:
Many thanks, Helen.
Peer comment(s):

agree Ingeborg Gowans (X) : fascinating and very enlightening
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Thanks, Ingeborg, yes, that's part of why Kudoz questions are often so interesting, isn't it?
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "The client selected "radiating bank", but I'm giving you 4 for effort anyway!"

Reference comments

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Reference:

Strahlenwall

The Dünsberg is one of the most important Celtic settlement sites. Its 3 encircling walls cover an area of 100 hectares. The hillfort was occupied from the late Bronze-Age (ca. 800 BC) up to late Celtic times. It is the only fortification that continues in use up into the time of the cultural change from Celtic to Roman times. This is also the time of the genesis of the Chatti in the state of Hessen. The military campaign led by Drusus, who set off from the Roman Mainz in 10 BC, was directed against the Chatti. Possibly, the Dünsberg had been affected by the campaign too. For decades already, a remarkable cluster of both Celtic and Roman weapons, horse-gear and other military objects has been noted in the South of the Oppidum outside Gate 4. The reasons for the 1999 and this years excavation campaigns in the vicinity of Gate 4 are the following: investigating the construction of the walls, the character of the so-called Strahlenwälle (walls, extending out of the main line of the rampart near some of the gates), as well as finding out about the type of settlement on the so-called "Wohnpodien" (level areas for individual houses) situated between the middle and outer walls.

http://www.duensberg.de/berichtc.html

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Note added at 35 mins (2011-03-05 11:35:18 GMT)
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Der auf dieser Karte eingezeichnete Steinwall , der vom Tor aus mit etwa 150 m Länge nach Norden abging, ist heute völlig verschwunden. Es ist nicht nachprüfbar, ob es, wie vermutet, ein den Weg zum Tor flankierender und damit zur Befestigung gehören-
der “Strahlenwall” war, oder ob es sich, wohl wahrscheinlicher, um einen der in der Landschaft häufigen Lesesteinwälle handelte. Sicher eine moderne Ackergrenze ist der vom ebenfalls als Lücke im Wall gebildeten Südtor nach Süden ziehende Steinwall.
Das dritte östliche Tor, nur 75 m vom Geisstein angelegt, war durch zwei sich überlap-
pende Mauerenden, die eine fast 25 m lange Torgasse schufen, besonders geschützt. Die äußere Torwange weist zudem an ihrem Ende eine bastionsartige Verdickung auf.
http://www.kelten-info-bank.de/milseburg.html
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Ingeborg Gowans (X) : good research,too. I always learn something new
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