Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
cadre de gestion
English translation:
management executive
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Diana Chemparathy
Jul 6, 2005 20:40
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The context is " Il travaille comme cadre de gestion...". Any ideas? Is it management officer by any chance? Thank you for you suggestions.
Proposed translations
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| 4 +6 | management executive |
Tony M
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| 5 -1 | management cadre |
Pierre Renault
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| 4 | Senior manager |
smw
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| 4 -1 | Executive manager |
Anna Maria Augustine (X)
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| 3 | executive in administration |
David Vaughn
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| 4 -2 | manager |
DocteurPC
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| 3 -1 | management capacity |
Susan Spier (X)
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Proposed translations
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8 mins
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management executive
There is quite a difference between someone who is an executive in the field of management (as I believe here) and the actual rôle of an 'executive manager'
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Note added at 11 mins (2005-07-06 20:52:00 GMT)
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cadre does indeed mean executive --- but the noun, not the adjective, which as Doc says is exécutif. If you change the word order in English, the noun becomes the adjective and vice-versa.
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Note added at 15 mins (2005-07-06 20:55:35 GMT)
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GDT gives \'cadre supérieur\' as one possiiblity for \'executive manager\' which highlights the difference...
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Note added at 9 hrs 11 mins (2005-07-07 05:52:27 GMT)
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This term is sufficiently vague and general to cover all possibilities and thus avoid any argument; it does not involve tying the idea down to a specific job, it simply says that this person works at \'executive\' level, and is involved in \'management\'. Jane has seen the point I am trying to make.
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Note added at 11 mins (2005-07-06 20:52:00 GMT)
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cadre does indeed mean executive --- but the noun, not the adjective, which as Doc says is exécutif. If you change the word order in English, the noun becomes the adjective and vice-versa.
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Note added at 15 mins (2005-07-06 20:55:35 GMT)
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GDT gives \'cadre supérieur\' as one possiiblity for \'executive manager\' which highlights the difference...
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Note added at 9 hrs 11 mins (2005-07-07 05:52:27 GMT)
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This term is sufficiently vague and general to cover all possibilities and thus avoid any argument; it does not involve tying the idea down to a specific job, it simply says that this person works at \'executive\' level, and is involved in \'management\'. Jane has seen the point I am trying to make.
Peer comment(s):
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Anna Maria Augustine (X)
: I put it first. Pse read all of my answer!
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It seemed from your answer that you were rejecting this as a possibility, Anna
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Gina W
1 hr
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Thanks, Gad!
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pearl1
9 hrs
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Thanks, Pearl!
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French Foodie
: adjective or noun makes a difference!
10 hrs
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Thanks a lot, Mara! Yes, indeed!
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| agree |
David Vaughn
: OR executive in management
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Thanks, Vaughn!
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| agree |
Bruce Berger
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Thanks, Bruce!
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Vicky Papaprodromou
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Thanks, Vicky!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
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1 min
Executive manager
This is it as I've always used it.
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Note added at 3 mins (2005-07-06 20:44:03 GMT)
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To word it as \"management executive\" we\'d need some more words after : gestion, to give context.
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Note added at 8 mins (2005-07-06 20:48:31 GMT)
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This seems right for a job title then.
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Note added at 26 mins (2005-07-06 21:07:18 GMT)
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Please note that I put \"Management Executive\" before anyone else as it was my idea but it was before you added a note on lack of more context.
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Note added at 3 mins (2005-07-06 20:44:03 GMT)
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To word it as \"management executive\" we\'d need some more words after : gestion, to give context.
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Note added at 8 mins (2005-07-06 20:48:31 GMT)
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This seems right for a job title then.
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Note added at 26 mins (2005-07-06 21:07:18 GMT)
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Please note that I put \"Management Executive\" before anyone else as it was my idea but it was before you added a note on lack of more context.
Peer comment(s):
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DocteurPC
: mais alors ça dirait exécutif
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No. Cadre means executive at least in France. Don't know about Canada
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Tony M
: Sorry, but I have to disagree with your HEADWORD answer, and your added note seems to imply that 'management executive' is NOT viable; your suggestion is not clear.
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but that's my added note!
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Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
: yes cadre means executive as in the noun..here, you have executive as an adjective..see what I mean? :)
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management cadre
A "cadre de gestion" is management personnel. Could be a manager, could be an executive, could be a clerk: it refers simply someone who works in management.
Here's Merriam-Webster for "cadre" (the English word).
1 : FRAME, FRAMEWORK
2 : a nucleus or core group especially of trained personnel able to assume control and to train others;
broadly : a group of people having some unifying relationship <a cadre of lawyers>
3 : a cell of indoctrinated leaders active in promoting the interests of a revolutionary party
4 : a member of a cadre
Combine #'s 2 and 4, and you'll see it fits.
Here's Merriam-Webster for "cadre" (the English word).
1 : FRAME, FRAMEWORK
2 : a nucleus or core group especially of trained personnel able to assume control and to train others;
broadly : a group of people having some unifying relationship <a cadre of lawyers>
3 : a cell of indoctrinated leaders active in promoting the interests of a revolutionary party
4 : a member of a cadre
Combine #'s 2 and 4, and you'll see it fits.
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: I don't think the word 'cadre' is in common usage in this sort of sense, and especially, OED gives it as having a specific connotation with the communist party!
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management capacity
There are really quite a few choices - because the context is so vague. Could be executive, but also officer as you suggested or even simply within the management ranks. Perhaps saying he works IN a management capacity rather than AS A (specific term) could be a solution ?
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: No, because this could easily imply something much too humble for a 'cadre'! // But you can't say 'he works AS a framework or structure'! It doesn't say 'he works IN...'
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It all depends on how you interpret cadre. In addition to executive, it can also mean the framework or structure
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executive in administration
Another suggestion based on the idea that "gestion" here seems to refer to a branch or department of the entreprise, which could be called "administration" in English, in contrast with "production", "sales", etc...
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