Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
muséification
English translation:
traditional museum-based approach
Added to glossary by
Anna Kiff
Aug 11, 2005 08:55
19 yrs ago
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French term
muséification
French to English
Social Sciences
Food & Drink
Heritage
From a text about conserving chestnuts as a form of heritage (exciting stuff!):
"Les investissements patrimoniaux qui s’affichent comme des alternatives à la muséification classique sont variés. Cet article en présentera trois : la labellisation de sites et de paysages ; l’utilisation de l’image de la châtaigne et du châtaignier dans des logos ; et les fêtes de la châtaigne."
Can we say museumization? Is there a better alternative? What exactly does it mean? Thanks for your help!
"Les investissements patrimoniaux qui s’affichent comme des alternatives à la muséification classique sont variés. Cet article en présentera trois : la labellisation de sites et de paysages ; l’utilisation de l’image de la châtaigne et du châtaignier dans des logos ; et les fêtes de la châtaigne."
Can we say museumization? Is there a better alternative? What exactly does it mean? Thanks for your help!
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Rachel Fell
United Kingdom
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Works in: French to English, Spanish to English, Italian to English, and 4 more.
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alternatives to the traditional museum-based approach
alternatives to the traditional museum-based approach (or route)
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i.e. meaning get the chestnut (and chestnut tree) into people\'s minds as part of their heritage through holding festivals dedicated to it, incorporating it into logos, etc., rather then just having a museum of the chestnut!
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i.e. meaning get the chestnut (and chestnut tree) into people\'s minds as part of their heritage through holding festivals dedicated to it, incorporating it into logos, etc., rather then just having a museum of the chestnut!
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Connor
: yes - and words like museumization and museification should be left in their museums
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Thankyou, Connor!
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Tony M
: Yes, that's the way I see it as being used here. Avoiding the "If it stands still, build a museum" syndrome
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Or, if it's heritage, it means museum!
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Vicky Papaprodromou
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Thankyou, Vicky!
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French Foodie
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Thanks, Mara!
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Nick Lingris
: Yes, if one wants to avoid the 'uglification' of English. [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/08...]
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Thanks for the link too, Nick! Ugh, greige!
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sporran
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Thanks, sporran!
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emiledgar
: This seems to be the only possible choice if one doesn't want to create sone horrid new word.
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Or encourage the use of any already exisitng!
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Sandra C.
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Thank you Sandra!
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Comment: "Great, a good way of putting it. Thanks for your help."
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museumization
Fait de considérer quelque chose (lieux, bâtiments, culture, etc.) comme objet de musée, c'est-à-dire comme intouchable, figé, extérieur à la vie réelle.
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Sinziana Paltineanu (X)
: indeed
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Nick Lingris
: Agree. Based on a comparison of the uses of 'museified' and 'museumized'. Though the first sounds better, it also has some negative overtones, as John has pointed out.
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John Peterson
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alternatives to the usual/standard "heritage industry" approach
or "heritage industry"-type approach
A suggestion; the verb "muséfier" (see Le Petit Larousse) sometimes has a pejorative overtones (e.g. conservation areas becoming too "twee").
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Sorry, a typo should be \"muséifier\"
A suggestion; the verb "muséfier" (see Le Petit Larousse) sometimes has a pejorative overtones (e.g. conservation areas becoming too "twee").
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Sorry, a typo should be \"muséifier\"
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Tony M
: I agree with your comments, though I don't feel the 'heritage industry' part of your term works quite as well as Rachel's suggestion retaining 'museum'
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Thanks; I went for "heritage" given the wider activities (like festivals) and the marketing slant. Museum may be too specific, given the context.
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museology
http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&id=431432
http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&id=647669
maybe this fits your context too.
http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&id=647669
maybe this fits your context too.
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Michele Fauble
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museum concept
'museum concept'
'museum approach'
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\'alternatives to the classical museum concept\'
'museum approach'
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\'alternatives to the classical museum concept\'
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as a different take on the traditional museum experience
I think what they mean is that instead of opening a boring old 'Musee de la Chataigne', they've decided to celebrate the little fruit with innovative & interactive projects (like a festival, etc...)
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Advance Communication
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mumification
not the same, but same idea. Or else "as alternatives to preservation in aspic are numerous/varied."
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Michele, you seem a little upset by this. \"To keep or preserve something in aspic\" is a frequently used image for this concept and many others where people try to keep things as they are or as they once were.
For example:
Frozen In Aspic? The Approach Of The Jersey Courts To The Roots Of The Island\'s Common Law.
Alan Binnington
\"Our law cannot be regarded as frozen in the aspic of the 18th Century\", were the words used by the Royal Court of Jersey in its decision in Selby v Romeril [1] . It is sometimes suggested by the Island’s competitor jurisdiction
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Michele, you seem a little upset by this. \"To keep or preserve something in aspic\" is a frequently used image for this concept and many others where people try to keep things as they are or as they once were.
For example:
Frozen In Aspic? The Approach Of The Jersey Courts To The Roots Of The Island\'s Common Law.
Alan Binnington
\"Our law cannot be regarded as frozen in the aspic of the 18th Century\", were the words used by the Royal Court of Jersey in its decision in Selby v Romeril [1] . It is sometimes suggested by the Island’s competitor jurisdiction
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