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Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

le coin social

English translation:

taxes

Added to glossary by sarahl (X)
Apr 13, 2005 01:02
19 yrs ago
French term

le coin social

Non-PRO French to English Bus/Financial Finance (general)
le coin social (différence entre salaires nets et salaires bruts)
Proposed translations (English)
3 +2 taxes
4 +2 social contributions/Social security contributions
4 -1 social deductions

Discussion

sarahl (X) Apr 15, 2005:
For Anna Augustin: social security means unemployment benefits in the US. and I know all about French retenues sur salaire.
Non-ProZ.com Apr 15, 2005:
Ok then, "payroll deductions". Thanks.
Anna Maria Augustine (X) Apr 15, 2005:
For Sarahl: Assedic is unemployment benefit contribution which everyone pays, nothing to do with social security. Everyone pays CAF, family benefits contribution too.
Kim Metzger Apr 15, 2005:
Enter "social deductions" in Google in quotation marks and you'll get lots of Russian sites. Payroll deductions is my recommendation because it's English and captures the idea.
Non-ProZ.com Apr 15, 2005:
If "social deductions" doesn't make sense, then what is the proposed response that would make sense, Kim? I doubt this refers ONLY to Social Security.
Sarahl, I agree, I've translated paystubs from France before and there are PLENTY of deductions of all sorts.
Thanks, everyone, for all the responses and feedback.
sarahl (X) Apr 13, 2005:
Disagree with Anna. INCOME tax is not withheld from your monthly paycheck, but other taxes are. social security would be ASSEDIC in France, when s�curit� sociale is health insurance. CSG and CRDS are taxes in their own right.
Kim Metzger Apr 13, 2005:
Social security, "social deductions" doesn't make sense in English.
Non-ProZ.com Apr 13, 2005:
Thanks, Kim - even if it's translated into American English? Yeah, I guess so, but then it would still seem to me that "payroll deductions" might be appropriate...or do you think "social deductions" is more the idea? Thanks again.
Kim Metzger Apr 13, 2005:
Anna made a very good point. When translating you have to understand what's happening in the source language/country - not what goes on in the US. If "coin social" are social security taxes in France then that's how you have to translate it.
Kim Metzger Apr 13, 2005:
Payroll deductions are the amounts that an employer deducts from a person's salary. http://www.cpadirectory.com/cpaclientcenter/calcs/payroll.ht...
Anna Maria Augustine (X) Apr 13, 2005:
Gad, I guess this text came from France. Here, we can't have taxes taken out of our pay before we get it. What gets taken out is social security, family benefit contribution, retirement, and other odd bits and pieces. So our pay is not net of taxes.
Non-ProZ.com Apr 13, 2005:
Ah, I see what you mean. Hmm...
sarahl (X) Apr 13, 2005:
well in the US, they can withhold taxes on your paycheck, when deductions is something you claim to pay less.
Non-ProZ.com Apr 13, 2005:
Ah, I see Kim posted "payroll deductions".
Non-ProZ.com Apr 13, 2005:
No, I mean deductions, as that is what I would call them. What do you mean by "withheld", I'm interested in hearing that, thanks.
sarahl (X) Apr 13, 2005:
deductions? you mean withheld, right?
Non-ProZ.com Apr 13, 2005:
Yes, sarahl, I was thinking of "payroll deductions", given the context above.

Proposed translations

+2
28 mins
Selected

taxes

no matter how you slice it, that's what "charges sociales" are.
Peer comment(s):
agree Vicky Papaprodromou
4 hrs
efxaristo Vicky
agree Kim Metzger : Or payroll deductions - what is withheld from the salary.
11 hrs
thanks Kim
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
-1
4 mins

social deductions

usually for old age pension and for health and invalidity insurance but also for workman's compensation (here in the USA at least)
Peer comment(s):
disagree Kim Metzger : But we don't call them "social deductions" in the US.
2 hrs
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+2
17 mins

social contributions/Social security contributions

Social contributions

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Note added at 2 days 19 hrs 46 mins (2005-04-15 20:48:21 GMT)
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Update:
Employer and employee contributions.
In France, both the employer and employee have to make lots of social contributions to so many different organizations, all kinds of insurances; health, unemployment, family benefits, BUT you have to make your own arrangements to pay pay various kinds of taxes like the income tax, rates, professional tax if you\'re self-employed or an employer.
Payroll to me is the list of names of people on the payroll who are to be paid; ie staff members of a company.
My final answer is: Employer and employee (social) contributions
Peer comment(s):
agree Kim Metzger : Social security would make sense if that's what "coin social" amounts to.
18 hrs
agree writeaway : This was the right answer. http://www.banque-france.fr/gb/publications/telnomot/ner/ner...
807 days
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