Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
justification sismique
English translation:
seismic qualification
Added to glossary by
kashew
Oct 6, 2012 18:09
12 yrs ago
French term
"justification sismique"
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Energy / Power Generation
Nuclear power plant safety
"L’installation est redevable d’une justification sismique"
Term seems to be used specifically by EDF in the context of earthquake protection for nuclear power stations.
It's clear enough what it is: a kind of "earthquake-proof certification" — the use of the word 'justification' for a physical document is really what's causing me most trouble here.
I could invent something, but I was kind of hoping somebody might be able to tell me if there is any kind of existing 'official' translation, preferably as used by EDF!
FWIW, this is found in a very long and complex CCTP for technical equipment.
Term seems to be used specifically by EDF in the context of earthquake protection for nuclear power stations.
It's clear enough what it is: a kind of "earthquake-proof certification" — the use of the word 'justification' for a physical document is really what's causing me most trouble here.
I could invent something, but I was kind of hoping somebody might be able to tell me if there is any kind of existing 'official' translation, preferably as used by EDF!
FWIW, this is found in a very long and complex CCTP for technical equipment.
Proposed translations
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| 3 +3 | seismic qualification |
kashew
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| 3 | seismic safety case |
Claire Cox
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| 5 -2 | Seismic justification |
Salih YILDIRIM
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Change log
Oct 11, 2012 12:08: kashew Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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seismic qualification
Note from asker:
| Thanks a lot, J, this is certainly a strong contender; as you have astutely evaluated the context, we are indeed talking here about confirmation that equipment, plant, etc. is 'earthquake-proof' |
Peer comment(s):
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Claire Cox
: Yes, I'd go with this too: and I have come across justifications used in the sense of supporting documentation before too
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Hacia
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Terry Richards
: See my discussion entry
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Salih YILDIRIM
: Soory this literally means "features, characters, pecs, peculiarity of seismic events but not JUSTIFICATION which requires documented seismic exploration surveys etc. http://socialvois.com/?s=seismic qualification&ch=5890007683...
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Martin Cassell
: (Salih, I think you have misunderstood the engineering use of the term "qualification")
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3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks a lot, J, for your answer, and the extremely useful reference which also helped me for some other terms!
In the end, this wasn't the term I finally used, although I do think it would be applicable in many contexts."
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Claire Cox
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
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French & German Technical Translations
Native in: English
Works in: French to English, German to English
Related KudoZ points
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127
seismic safety case
Another thought: my ex-husband used to work for NNC, the nuclear power station designers, and he was always talking about safety cases. Sure enough, they do seem to talk about seismic safety cases: I wonder if that would work here?
v - HSE
www.hse.gov.uk/foi/releases/hink2b.pdf
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BE reported that the seismic safety case is bounded by the static case and that displacements of around -of,the static case were predicted in the seismic safety ...
[PDF]
View the full Project Assessment Report [PDF] - HSE
www.hse.gov.uk/nuclear/pars/2012/wylfa-5.pdf
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13 Jul 2012 – PROJECT ASSESSMENT REPORT. Report Identifier: ONR-WYF-PAR-12-029. Revision: Revision 0. Project: Shutdown Seismic Safety Case ...
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v - HSE
www.hse.gov.uk/nuclear/foi/hink2d.pdf
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hazards it is considered appropriate to review the core seismic safety case under the PSR Specification for the Core System. 37. This is addressed in Refs. 8 and ...
Hunterston | Nuclear | Mott MacDonald
www.nuclear.mottmac.com/projects/hunterston/
Mott MacDonald conducted a comprehensive review of the Seismic Safety Case for Hunterston A Power Station for the decommissioning stage of the station.
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Hunterston A: Response to EU Stress Tests following the Events at ...
www.magnoxsites.com/.../...
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As part of the seismic safety case for the facilities, an assessment of the ability to withstand the design basis earthquake has been carried out. In addition an ...
v - HSE
www.hse.gov.uk/foi/releases/hink2b.pdf
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
BE reported that the seismic safety case is bounded by the static case and that displacements of around -of,the static case were predicted in the seismic safety ...
[PDF]
View the full Project Assessment Report [PDF] - HSE
www.hse.gov.uk/nuclear/pars/2012/wylfa-5.pdf
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
13 Jul 2012 – PROJECT ASSESSMENT REPORT. Report Identifier: ONR-WYF-PAR-12-029. Revision: Revision 0. Project: Shutdown Seismic Safety Case ...
[PDF]
v - HSE
www.hse.gov.uk/nuclear/foi/hink2d.pdf
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
hazards it is considered appropriate to review the core seismic safety case under the PSR Specification for the Core System. 37. This is addressed in Refs. 8 and ...
Hunterston | Nuclear | Mott MacDonald
www.nuclear.mottmac.com/projects/hunterston/
Mott MacDonald conducted a comprehensive review of the Seismic Safety Case for Hunterston A Power Station for the decommissioning stage of the station.
[PDF]
Hunterston A: Response to EU Stress Tests following the Events at ...
www.magnoxsites.com/.../...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
As part of the seismic safety case for the facilities, an assessment of the ability to withstand the design basis earthquake has been carried out. In addition an ...
Note from asker:
| Thanks, Claire, for your obviously authoritative input! I didn't use this solution in the end, as I had trouble finding references that tied it closely enough to my very specific context. I feel sure this would indeed be the correct answer in some contexts, but wasn't confident enough about it in mine ;-) |
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Salih YILDIRIM
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Native in: Turkish (Variant: Standard-İstanbul ) 
Works in: Turkish to English, English to Turkish, French to Turkish, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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Seismic justification
Imho
"The installation is held liable for a seismic justification " is the translation of first line of given text.
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Note added at 15 hrs (2012-10-07 10:06:27 GMT)
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Kim: You'd better check this out to observ e the fact!
http://socialvois.com/?s=seismic qualification&ch=5890007683...
"The installation is held liable for a seismic justification " is the translation of first line of given text.
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Note added at 15 hrs (2012-10-07 10:06:27 GMT)
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Kim: You'd better check this out to observ e the fact!
http://socialvois.com/?s=seismic qualification&ch=5890007683...
Note from asker:
| Thank you for your contribution. Sadly, the literal translation would not be applicable in this context, where 'justification' has a very specific technical meaning. |
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Kim Metzger
: The asker no doubt knows how to translate the term word-for-word, but is specifically asking if there is an "official" translation used by EDF.
2 hrs
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| disagree |
AllegroTrans
: word by word literal translation seldom works for tricky terms
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Discussion
And thanks too, Didier — that's very helpful, I wish I'd managed to find that document sooner! Only slight drawback, though, is that this site in itself is generally poorly translated, so sadly cannot be regarded as authoritative :-(
http://www.afcen.com/V11/index.php?menu=etc_c_fr
j'ai Analysis principles -> Principes de justification
et d'autres occurrences de "design analysis" traduit par "justification"
Par contre "calcul sismique"<-"design earthquake calculation"
I have an EDF glossary and "justification" occurs several times. In each case, it is translated as "supporting documentation".
However, I'm not sure that fits your context but I offer it up for your consideration.
Personally, I prefer kashew's "qualification" in this case.