Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Mar 24, 2005 19:27
19 yrs ago
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French term
occupations
French to English
Art/Literary
Archaeology
Quebec French
Ainsi, sur trois sites différents, on a recueilli des milliers d’artéfacts. Sur les mêmes sites, on a retrouvé les vestiges de campements historiques où ont eu lieu les premiers contacts entre les Mistassins et les Français qui venaient de la vallée du Saint-Laurent. Mentionnons, par exemple, le site Saapaanikuu où le père Charles Albanel rencontra le vieux chef cri Sebaourat, en 1672. Sur ce seul site, en 1998, on a dégagé 9 structures de foyers témoins de diverses occupations qui s’étalent du VIIIe au XIXe siècle de notre ère. On y a recueilli sur place plus de 3 900 éclats de pierres travaillées, 130 outils et 254 objets différents datant de la période historique. Et pourtant, ces trouvailles n’occupaient que 30 % de la superficie du site à inventorier.
Proposed translations
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3 +1 | occupation layers |
Gabrielle Lyons
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4 +2 | settlements |
Michele Fauble
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4 +1 | activities |
Michel A.
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4 -2 | trades |
Richard George Elliott
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Proposed translations
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occupation layers
This is a standard term assuming that your text is talking about a series of archaeological layers - i.e. the oldest hearths are buried deeper in the earth than the more recent layers that overlay them. This would fit with a period of several centuries and explain how there are so many hearths at one site.
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e.g.
http://www.excavations.ie/Pages/Details.php?Year=1970&County...
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I still think \"occupation layers\" is the most probable meaning, but it seems to me that you could hedge your bets by translating as:
\"uncovered 9 hearth structures, which bear witness to multiple occupations spread over a period from...\"
This could mean either that there are distinct occupation layers as I suggested, or that the site was clearly occupied on many different occasions but the the deposition does not allow separate layers to be clearly identified. Presumably, anyone with enough expertise to find the distinction important would be able to read such a translation and understand the correct meaning from it: layers or just messy successive occupations.
In either case, I am sure \'occupations\' refers to inhabitations rather than activities etc.
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Try these Google results for confirmation:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=occupations archaeolo...
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Note added at 19 mins (2005-03-24 19:47:25 GMT)
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e.g.
http://www.excavations.ie/Pages/Details.php?Year=1970&County...
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Note added at 1 day 15 hrs 50 mins (2005-03-26 11:18:00 GMT)
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I still think \"occupation layers\" is the most probable meaning, but it seems to me that you could hedge your bets by translating as:
\"uncovered 9 hearth structures, which bear witness to multiple occupations spread over a period from...\"
This could mean either that there are distinct occupation layers as I suggested, or that the site was clearly occupied on many different occasions but the the deposition does not allow separate layers to be clearly identified. Presumably, anyone with enough expertise to find the distinction important would be able to read such a translation and understand the correct meaning from it: layers or just messy successive occupations.
In either case, I am sure \'occupations\' refers to inhabitations rather than activities etc.
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Note added at 1 day 15 hrs 53 mins (2005-03-26 11:20:42 GMT)
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Try these Google results for confirmation:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=occupations archaeolo...
Peer comment(s):
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Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
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thanks
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df49f (X)
: vous avez raison: aucune ambiguïté dans ce texte - d'ailleurs on ne dirait pas "des occupations" pour "activités"
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Michel A.
: It seems to me having read & reread the text that it DOES speak about activities
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That IS possible, but seems odd to me - wouldn't it indicate which activities or the nature of the evidence for them?
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "This was a tough one! I decided to go with "ocupations", as per Gabrielle's last comment. I also found these links: http://www.civilization.ca/archeo/hnpc/npvol23e.html and http://www.civilization.ca/archeo/hnpc/npvol23f.html Thank you all for your input!"
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trades
...offering evidence of various different trades...
Peer comment(s):
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Michele Fauble
: I think they are refering to occupancy of the site, rather than activities carried out there.
27 mins
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df49f (X)
: ici, occupation du territoire # english "occupation"=trade, profession..
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9 mins
activities
not specifically trades
Peer comment(s):
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Christopher Crockett
: Yes, "activities" is sufficiently vague --all sorts of things which may "occupy" one.
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Cheers
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Richard George Elliott
: yes, good point.
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Cheers
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Michele Fauble
: I think they are refering to occupancy of the site, rather than activities carried out there.
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Not sure :-)
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peekay
: "activities" can exclude "occupation" . I would most definitely go with "settlement".
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cf supra
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Terry Gwenn
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Merci
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df49f (X)
: faux-sens, ici occupation du territoire// relu et réfléchi AVANT de répondre - re-relu ...-> toujours évident qu'il s'agit d'occupation d'un territoire - pas d'ambiguïté
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Il me semble que nous parlons tous les deux Français et RIEN dans ce texte ne permet de privilégier un sens ou l'autre du mot occupation :-) (réfléchissez et relisez le texte)
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settlements
... The city's citadel is built on the ruins of settlements going back to 6000 BC, making Erbil one of the oldest continuously inhabited towns on the face ...
www.insideout.org/documentaries/ahmad/script1.asp
.. Tool kits contained woodworking implements for building dwellings and ... but archaeological evidence reveals settlements going back to at least 1000 BC ...
mirrorh.com/timeline3.html
. I could see occasional clusters of dun mud brick dwellings on a ... a couple of hundred
thousand people living here somewhere in settlements going back to the 4th ...
members.fortunecity.com/ thormay/travelnotes/afghanistan1.html
www.insideout.org/documentaries/ahmad/script1.asp
.. Tool kits contained woodworking implements for building dwellings and ... but archaeological evidence reveals settlements going back to at least 1000 BC ...
mirrorh.com/timeline3.html
. I could see occasional clusters of dun mud brick dwellings on a ... a couple of hundred
thousand people living here somewhere in settlements going back to the 4th ...
members.fortunecity.com/ thormay/travelnotes/afghanistan1.html
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peekay
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suezen
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thanks
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df49f (X)
: oui - occupations du territoire, et non pas activités/trades/occupations comme proposés plus haut qui est un faux-sens
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Michel A.
: It seems to me having read & reread the text that it DOES speak about activities
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Discussion
Il y a environ 18 000 ans, la calotte glaciaire d�passait ici les 3 kilom�tres d��paisseur. La plaine du Saint Laurent ne fut lib�r�e de ses glaces que vers 12 000 AA quand le glacier commen�a alors progressivement � retraiter vers le nord. Au fur et � mesure que la v�g�tation et la faune s�y installaient, les Am�rindiens allaient occuper les espaces lib�r�s. Ainsi, c�est � la p�riode postarcha�que, c�est-�-dire il y a environ 3 500 ans, que d�buta v�ritablement le peuplement de la r�gion du grand lac Mistassini. Cette derni�re occupe donc une place de choix dans le patrimoine arch�ologique du Qu�bec. Non seulement y trouve-t-on une des plus importantes sources de mati�re lithique utilis�e par les Am�rindiens au cours de la pr�histoire, le quartzite de Mistassini, mais c�est aussi dans cette r�gion que se sont d�roul�s les premiers grands projets de recherche arch�ologique multidisciplinaire dans le Nord-du-Qu�bec. Ces projets ont culmin� en 1969 avec la publication d�une synth�se intitul�e Mistassini-Albanel. Contribution � la pr�histoire du Qu�bec des auteurs Martijn et Rogers. La premi�re cons�quence de cette recherche a �t� le classement, � titre de bien culturel, de la Colline Blanche (Wapushakamikw), � la fois un lieu sacr� et un site d�exploitation du quartzite de Mistassini. Notons qu'au Qu�bec, il s'agit du premier site arch�ologique � avoir obtenu cette reconnaissance.
Les outils fa�onn�s � partir du quartzite de Mistassini, cette pierre siliceuse, �taient tr�s convoit�s par les autres nations am�rindiennes. Par le troc, de g�n�ration en g�n�ration, certains de ces outils se sont retrouv�s jusqu�en Nouvelle-Angleterre et en Minganie.
Depuis le milieu des ann�es 1990, le Grand Conseil des Cris a reconnu l�importance de ce patrimoine culturel et a mis sur pied un programme structur� de recherches arch�ologiques qui b�n�ficie de l�expertise de David Denton et de Jean-Yves Pintal. Des fouilles successives ont �t� r�alis�es avec la participation de trappeurs connaissant bien les lieux.