Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

l'appareil était centré très arrière

English translation:

the aircraft's center of gravity was too far back

Added to glossary by Yolanda Broad
Sep 29, 2003 12:53
21 yrs ago
French term

centré très arrière

French to English Tech/Engineering Aerospace / Aviation / Space aviation
This is in a decision by the Cour de Cassation, about a plane crash. It talks about the weight of the passengers exceeding the weight authorised, and "que l'appareil était centré très arrière, que la puissance de son moteur était réduit..."
I might have got the accents wrong as the decision is all in capital letters. "arrièré" perhaps?

Proposed translations

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the aircraft's center of gravity was too far back

... How is the center of gravity of an airplane calculated? - Akhilesh Kumar Kashyap
The center of gravity (CG) is ... If too far back, the plane becomes unstable. ...
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Note added at 2003-09-29 13:31:54 (GMT)
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correct grammar

to be too far back

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Note added at 2003-09-29 14:42:25 (GMT)
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Note to magnum:

Then the center of gravity was DISPLACED too far back

and not \"far to the back\"....

As I said: a center of gravity cannot move to the back of the plane grammatically in English...it became displaced, it was displaced.....only a person or animal can move back...
sorry, but it\'s important to be grammatical and although you did get the idea, the grammar is off. Believe me, I would do the same thing in French....no hard feelings
Peer comment(s):

agree nothing
54 mins
agree Nikki Scott-Despaigne : "too far aft". See my comment. Oh yes, centres can move about all over the shop - that's the great difficulty with them. They're not always central. It means the centre of a given force/load, not the centre of the craft itself, even if the 2 can coincide
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks Jane - and the others who contributed. Mary"
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The centre of the plane's weight distribution was located very

far to the back/ a long way to the back.

It is "arrière". It is like a centre of gravity that is located too far back but in a plane I doubt if you can mention gravity!!!!
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...and aircraft's center of gravity moved far to the back of the plane

One of the reasons for why an aircraft stays aloft is that the center of gravity is located somewhere near the center of lift of the wing. Because the center of gravity is critical to the aircraft's ability to fly, a determination of the aircraft's center of gravity and total weight is necessary, and, required by the FAA, JAR and most other Civil aviation authorities before every take-off. An overloaded or improperly balanced aircraft will require more power and greater fuel consumption to maintain flight, and the stability and controllability will be seriously affected

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Peer comment(s):

agree Roddy Stegemann : Yes, center of gravity
3 mins
merci
neutral Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X) : the center of gravity does not move back; it is far back or isn't far back...
7 mins
Because of weight redistribution the position of plane's center of gravity DID move from its original location before boarding.
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centre (of gravity) was too far aft ; mass was centred too far aft

In naval architecture, which employs many terms from the field of aviation, a weights and centres study (devis de poids) is carried out to determine where and how weight should distributed across the platform.

Centres are not limited to just gravity. You will also find a centre of bouyancy, flotation, lateral resistance. All of these enter into the equation and form part of the wieghts and centre study.

Whilst what I have set out relates to boats, it seems perfectly logoical that the similar calucaltions must be taken into account in airplane construction. Therefore, the reference to "centre" is not to be interpreted just to mean centre of gravity. There must be a number of different "centres".

In any event, the (short) extract we have, suggests that the centre (no doubt the of gravity, the centre of mass) is too far aft and that upsets the longitudinal trim of the craft and eventually her fore and aft / centreline stability.

One or two quick references relating to aviation :

1 - aviation-safety.net/database/1949/490310-0.htm


2 - www.weighing-systems.com/TechnologyCentre/ aircraftweighing.html

read through the bit on BALANCE, STABILITY, AND CENTER OF GRAVITY

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