May 25, 2023 13:19
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English term

at the cost of the clarity and sufficiency

English Art/Literary Religion Creationism
"Once again, members of this organization are ultimately placing their faith in man’s fallible word, rather than God’s infallible Word. Their conclusions are made based on what evolutionists have to say about human origins, ***at the cost of the clarity and sufficiency*** of Scripture."


I don't see how this relates to the previous part of the sentence.

Discussion

Ana Juliá (asker) May 29, 2023:
at the cost of Could "at the cost of" mean then "thus dismissing" the clarity and sufficiency of Scripture?
Victoria Schmidt May 26, 2023:
@Ana Juliá Thanks for the context Ana. All the best with the translation.
Domini Lucas May 26, 2023:
@Ana Julia Thanks so much for clarifying that. It helps to have that context. :-) All strength to you!
Ana Juliá (asker) May 26, 2023:
I'm translating a book, about 100,000 words, written originally in English. But sometimes the ideas are not well expressed, that's why I need help from native English speakers to try to find out what the author really wanted to say. Thank you all for your help and understanding!
Chris Says Bye May 26, 2023:
I think from the questions it must be a translator, but either way someone who has bitten off way more than they can chew… It’s an awful text to be fair. Both style and content have managed to offend me.
Domini Lucas May 25, 2023:
@Asker I've been wondering if you are editing an English text or translating one? Just asking out of curiosity as previously I wondered about seeing a source text original if there is one. Not so much in this instance. However, if you go with your word order, I would change cost to expense i.e. at the expense of....

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instead of trusting that Scripture is sufficient and clear

The English source sentence is not very well expressed.

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Note added at 13 minutes (2023-05-25 13:32:28 GMT)
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instead of trusting that Scripture is sufficient and clear on the subject of human origins
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agree Clauwolf
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Man's fallible word/ideas vs the clarity of God's/Scripture's infallible Word

Scripture should be sufficiently clear for them but members of this organization are ...
"placing their faith in man’s fallible word,"
rather than God’s infallible Word. =Scripture

SO:

"Their conclusions are made based on what evolutionists have to say about human origins"
They come to their conclusions based on what evolutionists say rather than looking at Scripture which is sufficient and clear!

Hence Man's fallible word/ideas vs God's/Scripture's infallible Word
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Reference comments

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Reference:

The sufficiency of Scripture

It's a theological/biblical doctrine
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/essay/the-sufficiency-of-...
https://www.ligonier.org/podcasts/simply-put/the-sufficiency...
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0091647121995836

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https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/thoughts-on-the-suffici...
https://www.theologyforyou.com/the-sufficiency-of-scripture/

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re the infallibility of Scripture, see also https://www.theologyforyou.com/the-sufficiency-of-scripture/ (also in this reference the inerrancy of Scripture which may come up for you if it hasn't already.

The first paragraph in this link talks quite simply about how the Protestant Reformers worked hard restore the church's confidence in Scripture Stressing the unique inspiration and authority of the Bible, the Reformers sought to bring the Western church in submission to the Word of God after many years of the church's following those who claimed too much authority for themselves.

Not sure if your text refers to a historical context but to the present day, and/or what the organisation is, but certainly in Church of England contexts these discussions continue within the Church as there are different views and doctrines represented within its members and clergy.

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Note added at 1 hr (2023-05-25 14:58:02 GMT)
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Sorry. Stressing...themselves. above was part of the quote. I seemed to have knocked the italics out by mistake.

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Note added at 1 hr (2023-05-25 15:12:10 GMT)
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One more quote that I don't think you will find online. It's from the (handheld) New Dictionary of Theology, p. 630 and it may cover all you need to know as it cites infallibility, sufficiency and clarity. The section heading is "Scripture, authority and interpretation".

Authority is the basic theological issue into which discussions of revelation, inspiration, infallibility and inerrancy, and the necessity, sufficiency, and clarity of Scripture (three classic themes), and also of biblical interpretation, eventually run. What is at issue is the nature and extent of the control that canonical Scripture should exercise over the doctrine, discipline, and devotion of the church and its members. That Scripture mediates the authority of the God who gave it and the Christ to whom it testifies, ...

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N.B. The The New Dictionary of Theology and other quotes above separate out infallibility, sufficiency and clarity as different when talking about Scripture, even if they are related.
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