Apr 10, 2023 16:47
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From twinkle to twilight
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Dear colleagues,
I’m not sure about the meaning of “from twinkle to twilight” in the following two passages. Might it mean “from beginning to end”? But, if so, I don't quite understand "twinkle"..
Thank you so much for your help!
(this passage is in the Synopsis, right at the beginning of the book)
Investigating the nature of how our experience of what we often call “self” and of how the related experiences of identity and belonging emerge across the lifespan, *** from twinkle to twilight ***, this exploration combines personal reflections, lessons from contemplation and Indigenous knowledge, and findings from immersive meditative practices with scientific discussions of how the mind, brain, and relationships shape who we are and who we can become.
(This is at the end of the book, to introduce the References section)
I used the following sources in constructing this narrative, our journey together ** from twinkle to twilight. **
I’m not sure about the meaning of “from twinkle to twilight” in the following two passages. Might it mean “from beginning to end”? But, if so, I don't quite understand "twinkle"..
Thank you so much for your help!
(this passage is in the Synopsis, right at the beginning of the book)
Investigating the nature of how our experience of what we often call “self” and of how the related experiences of identity and belonging emerge across the lifespan, *** from twinkle to twilight ***, this exploration combines personal reflections, lessons from contemplation and Indigenous knowledge, and findings from immersive meditative practices with scientific discussions of how the mind, brain, and relationships shape who we are and who we can become.
(This is at the end of the book, to introduce the References section)
I used the following sources in constructing this narrative, our journey together ** from twinkle to twilight. **
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+6
3 mins
philgoddard
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from beginning to end
I think the meaning is clear from the context, even if the choice of words is odd. Twinkle could mean the first light of dawn, or the twinkle of the stars just before it.
Note from asker:
| Thank you so much, Phil, for your contribution! |
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Sheri P
: Also “twinkle in one’s father’s eye”
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Chris Says Bye
46 mins
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Sameer Ullah
: Yes i am agree "twinkle is one's father's eye"
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Anastasia Kalantzi
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Andrew Bramhall
: I think this is an over-simplification.
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P.L.F. Persio
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Yvonne Gallagher
: But it's about a lifespan?
// "beginning to end" could be of anything. Too general, though asker seems to think it might fit 2nd instance
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I don't understand your question. Yes, it says 'across a lifespan'.
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Amanda Santos
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Dear Phil, thank you so much for your help! Many sincere thanks also to all other contributors, especially for helping me understand the possible link with "twinkle in the father's eye"
Have a nice weekend!"
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23 mins
AllegroTrans
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Native in: English (Variant: Wessexois) 
Works in: French to English, English, English to French
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52
from birth to death
the human lifespan
Note from asker:
| Thank you so much for your help! I also thought "from birth to death", and maybe I could say that in the former occurrence, but in the latter, maybe it is more along the lines of "beginning to end", because the author seems to refer only to the journey (a metaphor for the book)... |
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Sheri P
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philgoddard
: I don't see how "the lifespan from birth to death" is different to "the lifespan from beginning to end".
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just a different way of expressing the same idea?
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Andrew Bramhall
: I don't think this is the actual meaning;
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thanks
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Claudia Podio
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thanks
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Tony M
: Yes, 'twinkle' is often used as a euphemism for the desire that led to conception, while 'twilight of their years' suggests old age, if not actual death. And 'life' is often described as a 'journey'.
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Yvonne Gallagher
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Thanks
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From twinkle to twilight
Twinkle):
(of light or a shiny surface) to shine repeatedly strongly then weakly, as if flashing on and off very quickly:
The lights of the town twinkled in the distance.
The stars twinkled in the clear sky.
His brown eyes twinkled behind the gold-rimmed glasses.
Twlilight):
A poetic word for "twilight," or the time of day immediately after the sun sets, is gloaming. The best thing about summer evenings is looking for twinkling fireflies in the gloaming.
(of light or a shiny surface) to shine repeatedly strongly then weakly, as if flashing on and off very quickly:
The lights of the town twinkled in the distance.
The stars twinkled in the clear sky.
His brown eyes twinkled behind the gold-rimmed glasses.
Twlilight):
A poetic word for "twilight," or the time of day immediately after the sun sets, is gloaming. The best thing about summer evenings is looking for twinkling fireflies in the gloaming.
Note from asker:
| Thank you for your contribution! |
Peer comment(s):
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Bashiqa
: I like this but it could indicate just a twenty-four hour period and I think the asker is looking at a longer time span.
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Andrew Bramhall
: Agree with Bashiqa;
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Tony M
: A simplisticly literal rendering which fails to really explain the metaphor being used here. By the way, 'gloaming' is regional much more than 'poetic'.
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Yvonne Gallagher
: You haven't explained what the expression actually means
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AllegroTrans
: This doesn't really explain anything
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Chris Says Bye
: I think it's about the "twinkle in the eye" as in conception
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Andrew Bramhall
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
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From the first adult expression of the human brain until its eclipse through old age and infirmity
This isn't about the physical lifespan as in from cradle to grave as such, it is related to the development of the human ego and intellect through physical development and education, until its decline and demise through old age an infirmity; it's about waxing and waning in terms of a human being's intellectal capacity.
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AllegroTrans
: Why "adult expression"? A baby perceives and communicates from day 1
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Yep, thanks;
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Yvonne Gallagher
: Reaĺly a disagree clearly from birth...and rather convoluted anyway!
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Yep, thanks.
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Chris Says Bye
: Adding way too much in. And starts well before "adult".
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Yep, Thank you!
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Discussion
The developmental approach we will take on our journey will invite both types of knowledge: Through the lens of lifespan growth and learning, from before conception through mature adult, we will explore core issues and key aspects of the growth of our experience of self, identity, and belonging.