Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
top rump sirloin steak // picanha (Brazilian cut of meat)
Spanish translation:
filet o bife de picaña // tapa del cuadril
Added to glossary by
María Teresa Taylor Oliver
Aug 12, 2018 14:20
6 yrs ago
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English term
Panama
Synesthete with a flair for tasty words!
Native in: Spanish (Variants: Salvadoran, Latin American, Colombian, Costa Rican, Panamanian, Nicaraguan, Mexican, Peruvian, Venezuelan, Cuban, Honduran, Argentine, US, Guatemalan) 
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish
top rump sirloin steak
English to Spanish
Marketing
Food & Drink
Estoy confundida con los distintos cortes de carne.
El documento que estoy traduciendo dice así:
"Grilled top rump sirloin steak served with rice, beans, vinaigrette sauce, yucca, and French fries. $58 (serves 4 people)"
Sirloin = solomillo y sirloin steak = filete de solomillo
Hasta ahí voy bien, pero entonces... he encontrado distintas variantes para rump y top rump:
contra
culata de contra
tapa
contratapa
Y la verdad es que estoy muy confundida. La carne no es lo mío, definitivamente. Ah, y tiene que ser para el inexistente "español neutro", por supuesto. :(
¡Muchas gracias por adelantado!
El documento que estoy traduciendo dice así:
"Grilled top rump sirloin steak served with rice, beans, vinaigrette sauce, yucca, and French fries. $58 (serves 4 people)"
Sirloin = solomillo y sirloin steak = filete de solomillo
Hasta ahí voy bien, pero entonces... he encontrado distintas variantes para rump y top rump:
contra
culata de contra
tapa
contratapa
Y la verdad es que estoy muy confundida. La carne no es lo mío, definitivamente. Ah, y tiene que ser para el inexistente "español neutro", por supuesto. :(
¡Muchas gracias por adelantado!
Proposed translations
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| 3 | filet/bife de picaña |
Mónica Algazi
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Proposed translations
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Mónica Algazi
Uruguay
Uruguay
Native in Spanish
Uruguay
ATA-certified English-Spanish translator
Native in: Spanish (Variant: Latin American)
Works in: English to Spanish
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filet/bife de picaña
Mira: http://espanolesenrio.blogspot.com/2012/06/la-picanha-que-es...
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https://www.canal10.com.uy/tips-preparar-picana-salsa-crioll...
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https://meathouse.co/blogs/news/la-picana-uno-de-los-cortes-...
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http://hacerasado.com.ar/como-hacer-picana-a-la-parrilla/
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http://quemirar.com/el-rincon-de-freddy-picana-rellena-y-sop...
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o tapa de cuadril
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https://www.canal10.com.uy/tips-preparar-picana-salsa-crioll...
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https://meathouse.co/blogs/news/la-picana-uno-de-los-cortes-...
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http://hacerasado.com.ar/como-hacer-picana-a-la-parrilla/
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http://quemirar.com/el-rincon-de-freddy-picana-rellena-y-sop...
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o tapa de cuadril
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you so much! In the end, I went with "filete de picaña"."
Reference comments
41 mins
Taña Dalglish
Jamaica
Jamaica
Native in English
Works in field
Jamaica
Translating the Ideas Behind the Words
Native in: English (Variant: British)
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, French to English, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
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Reference:
I am going to leave this to cooler heads to decipher, but I will still search for the ProZ meat glossary. Hopefully, I can find the one I believe is there.
I don't want to add more confusion to your issue, except what I had already found:
Menu - Rio 40 Degrees Restaurant
www.rio40restaurant.com/menu/
Chicken & cheese, ground beef, Codfish croquettes or cheese croquette ... Pan fried strips of rump steak with onions served with fried cassava – Add cheese ... Grilled sirloin steak in a Gorgonzola sauce served with rice and homemade potato chips ... ***Grilled rump steak served with rice, beans***, farofa, ***vinaigrette and fries**.
THE GRILL FROM IPANEMA - Three Course Easter Brunch ...
https://www.ramw.org/.../grill-ipanema-three-course-easter-b...
Served with rice, black beans, collard greens, and farofa (grounded yucaroasted ... DE SOL: Cubes of sun- dried beef with fried yucca, served with a spicysauce ... served with farofa, rice, black beans, vegetables andfresh vinaigrette sauce ... PICANHA GRELHADA: **Grilled slices of cap of rump beef*** served with salad, rice, ...
Feijao Com Arroz menu - Pompano Beach FL 33064 - (954) 784-0909
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish_to_english/cooking_culina... (this is Uruguay: rump steak > pulpón de vaciio)
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish_to_english/cooking_culina... (rump steak > cuadril) [not sure if this is South America or Spain too]. But then, I went elsewhere: http://es.foodlexicon.org/r0000410.php#0 & it says [Un biftec (en.: rump - Rumpf, steak) se corta del solomillo plano o de la cadera. Debería ser cortado en trozos de 200 a 300 g. El ***biftec del solomillo*** plano tiene en el caso ideal un borde de grasa blanca en el lado largo. Antes de asar se corta es trozos de aprox. 1 cm de ancho. Por eso el biftec no se comba al asar o asar en la parrilla. Si se compra un pedazo de solomillo en pieza en la carnicería, se corta primero la capa de grasa antes de cortar los filetes en diagonal. Justo lo suficiente como para que la carne se debe entrever en la capa de grasa. Así se ahorra el trabajo de cortar cada filete.]
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Here, as shown in one of my links (2nd) one where "picanha grelhada" (Portuguese), I found this one: (in Spanish) http://depaula.cat/blog/35-que-es-la-picana
Creo que la calidad y excelente sabor de la **picaña asada al carbón**, constituye la principal clave del éxito que está teniendo De Paula. [Then it says "La picanha". El corte de esta parte trasera de la ternera no era habitual en España, pero cada vez es más apreciada. ... Hecha a la brasa de carbón ....] Uuf!!!
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Last one. My head cannot deal with this today! LOL!.
http://espanolesenrio.blogspot.com/2012/06/la-picanha-que-es...
La picaña (Picanha en portuguès) es un corte de carne bovina típicamente brasileño.
De Paula - Qué es la "picaña"
depaula.cat/blog/35-que-es-la-picana
25 feb. 2016 - la picanha o picaña es una de las partes más tiernas de la ternera. ... otros nombres (en Galicia, por ejemplo, le llaman la tapa del cuadril).
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Robin: You want to pick on me (and mine is a mere reference) when other proposals have said much the same thing I have. http://asadacho.com/tapa-cuadril-y-costillas-en-la-parrilla-... (this has nothing to do with what you are accustomed to seeing in Chile!).
I don't want to add more confusion to your issue, except what I had already found:
Menu - Rio 40 Degrees Restaurant
www.rio40restaurant.com/menu/
Chicken & cheese, ground beef, Codfish croquettes or cheese croquette ... Pan fried strips of rump steak with onions served with fried cassava – Add cheese ... Grilled sirloin steak in a Gorgonzola sauce served with rice and homemade potato chips ... ***Grilled rump steak served with rice, beans***, farofa, ***vinaigrette and fries**.
THE GRILL FROM IPANEMA - Three Course Easter Brunch ...
https://www.ramw.org/.../grill-ipanema-three-course-easter-b...
Served with rice, black beans, collard greens, and farofa (grounded yucaroasted ... DE SOL: Cubes of sun- dried beef with fried yucca, served with a spicysauce ... served with farofa, rice, black beans, vegetables andfresh vinaigrette sauce ... PICANHA GRELHADA: **Grilled slices of cap of rump beef*** served with salad, rice, ...
Feijao Com Arroz menu - Pompano Beach FL 33064 - (954) 784-0909
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish_to_english/cooking_culina... (this is Uruguay: rump steak > pulpón de vaciio)
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish_to_english/cooking_culina... (rump steak > cuadril) [not sure if this is South America or Spain too]. But then, I went elsewhere: http://es.foodlexicon.org/r0000410.php#0 & it says [Un biftec (en.: rump - Rumpf, steak) se corta del solomillo plano o de la cadera. Debería ser cortado en trozos de 200 a 300 g. El ***biftec del solomillo*** plano tiene en el caso ideal un borde de grasa blanca en el lado largo. Antes de asar se corta es trozos de aprox. 1 cm de ancho. Por eso el biftec no se comba al asar o asar en la parrilla. Si se compra un pedazo de solomillo en pieza en la carnicería, se corta primero la capa de grasa antes de cortar los filetes en diagonal. Justo lo suficiente como para que la carne se debe entrever en la capa de grasa. Así se ahorra el trabajo de cortar cada filete.]
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Here, as shown in one of my links (2nd) one where "picanha grelhada" (Portuguese), I found this one: (in Spanish) http://depaula.cat/blog/35-que-es-la-picana
Creo que la calidad y excelente sabor de la **picaña asada al carbón**, constituye la principal clave del éxito que está teniendo De Paula. [Then it says "La picanha". El corte de esta parte trasera de la ternera no era habitual en España, pero cada vez es más apreciada. ... Hecha a la brasa de carbón ....] Uuf!!!
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Last one. My head cannot deal with this today! LOL!.
http://espanolesenrio.blogspot.com/2012/06/la-picanha-que-es...
La picaña (Picanha en portuguès) es un corte de carne bovina típicamente brasileño.
De Paula - Qué es la "picaña"
depaula.cat/blog/35-que-es-la-picana
25 feb. 2016 - la picanha o picaña es una de las partes más tiernas de la ternera. ... otros nombres (en Galicia, por ejemplo, le llaman la tapa del cuadril).
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Robin: You want to pick on me (and mine is a mere reference) when other proposals have said much the same thing I have. http://asadacho.com/tapa-cuadril-y-costillas-en-la-parrilla-... (this has nothing to do with what you are accustomed to seeing in Chile!).
Note from asker:
| Taña, would you like to post this as an answer, so I can choose it and close the question? Thanks! :) |
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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Phoenix III
: Tapa del cuadril also in Latin America.
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LOL! Thanks Phoenix. I guess "tapa del cuadril" it is (neutral Spanish is what is needed).
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Jennifer Levey
: During 15+years in Chile, I've never seen either "tapa" nor "cuadril" in a menu.// You seem to have missed the point. If Chileans will not understand "tapa del cuadril", then that is certainly NOT "neutral Spanish".
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I don't care what you have not seen in Chile. It is from the United States (a resort in Orlando, Florida) and the target audience is... "neutral Latin Am. Spanish". Menu is for a Brazilian-Italian fusion rest. /I object - post is a ref./ also have picaña!
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JohnMcDove
: http://dle.rae.es/?id=BPtoP9Z https://es.oxforddictionaries.com/translate/spanish-english/...
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Thanks John.
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Discussion
However, I should have said that the menu is for a Brazilian-Italian fusion restaurant and this particular item is called Picanha -- a Brazilian cut, so now we have three languages into the mix with Brazilian Portuguese apart from US English and "neutral" LA Spanish!
GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
Spanish term or phrase: pulpón de vacío
English translation: rump steak
Ojo: This may just be for Uruguay. Literally, every country or region has their own terminology. If you give us your source and target countries, that I think would help narrow down your choices. The ProZ meat glossary (there is one may help you too). I'll try to find the particular glossary and post.
rump (steak)
Explanation:
Beef is cut up differently in Uruguay and this particular cut is similar to rump but, instead of being a thin slice as in normal steak, it is a 'chunk' of rump.