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Sep 21, 2008 06:38
15 yrs ago
English term
Fluidized Sand
English to Hebrew
Science
Chemistry; Chem Sci/Eng
An episode in "Smash Lab" in Discovery channel.
Abstract of this episode:
The Smash Lab team investigate uses for fluidized sand from a cleaning machine. They discover that this 'instant quicksand' is a useful crime deterrent and defensive road barrier.
Abstract of this episode:
The Smash Lab team investigate uses for fluidized sand from a cleaning machine. They discover that this 'instant quicksand' is a useful crime deterrent and defensive road barrier.
Proposed translations
(Hebrew)
| 5 | חול רטוב / חול מורעד / חול מותז |
it5ik
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| 4 | חול שהוקנו לו תכונות נוזל |
Ron Armon
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| 5 -1 | חול לח/רטוב |
Doron Greenspan MITI
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Proposed translations
55 mins
חול שהוקנו לו תכונות נוזל
It's not that ellegant, but:
I really don't like using new words like מונזל unless they become REALLY common and widespread in the field.
מונזל IS used for liquidated GAS, but I couldn't really find it used on the web for fluidized solid parts like sand.
See this source:
http://www.epa.gov/OCEPAterms/fterms.html
A mass of solid particles that is made to flow like a liquid by injection of water or gas is said to have been *fluidized*. In water treatment, a bed of filter media is fluidized by backwashing water through the filter.
It seems that Amnon is right, but since water is commonly used in the process - Doron is not that wrong either.
I really don't like using new words like מונזל unless they become REALLY common and widespread in the field.
מונזל IS used for liquidated GAS, but I couldn't really find it used on the web for fluidized solid parts like sand.
See this source:
http://www.epa.gov/OCEPAterms/fterms.html
A mass of solid particles that is made to flow like a liquid by injection of water or gas is said to have been *fluidized*. In water treatment, a bed of filter media is fluidized by backwashing water through the filter.
It seems that Amnon is right, but since water is commonly used in the process - Doron is not that wrong either.
Reference:
-1
4 mins
Doron Greenspan MITI
Israel
Israel
Native in English
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Hebrew
Works in field
Israel
Hebrew Translator-Editor Pro Team (MITI)
Native in: Hebrew 
, English
Works in: English to Hebrew, Hebrew to English
Related KudoZ points
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חול לח/רטוב
Sometimes the simplest answer...
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-09-21 08:04:01 GMT)
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אולי לא הכי מדויק מבחינה מדעית, אבל כאן מדובר בתוכנית טלוויזיה, ובתיאור שנועד להמונים...
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-09-21 08:04:01 GMT)
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אולי לא הכי מדויק מבחינה מדעית, אבל כאן מדובר בתוכנית טלוויזיה, ובתיאור שנועד להמונים...
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Amnon Shapira
: צר לי, אך לא מדובר בחול לח אלא בחול (או חלקיקי חומר אחר) שמובא להתנהג כאילו היה נוזלי ואז משמש ליישומים שונים כגון ניקוי צבע או חלודה ממתכת וכד. נראה לי שהתרגום הנאות צריך להיות"חול מונזל"
27 mins
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| neutral |
Ron Armon
: I agree with Amnon's comment to Doron about the meaning - see source below, but Doron has a point here - it should be sharp and short and reach a wide audience
53 mins
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15 days
חול רטוב / חול מורעד / חול מותז
Please view attached Youtube video.
There are three possible meanings of "fludized sand".
1. The form in the video - sand "bubbled" by gas.
- In this case, the sand would be: חול מורעד.
Do the guys from Smash Lab create "instant" sand with bubbles to stop cars? i assume not, but if they do that in the show, then it's חול מורעד. Even "Bubbly sand" (= חול מבעבע), if that's EXACTLY what they created there.
2. Sand as it is being "sprayed" from a sand machine, used for industrial cleaning etc., thus behaving like a fluid.
- In this case, the sand would be: חול מותז.
If what they do there is "spraying" the sand from sand machines, (which could create an instant barrier, but probably couldn't act as quicksand) then it's חול מותז.
3. The 3rd way is sand so wet that it acts like quicksand (which is by definition extremely wet sand that a person, aminal or object can drown in).
- In this case, the sand would be: חול רטוב.
So if what they do in the episode is block a road with wet wet sand,
your choice would be חול רטוב. BTW this one would be my guess...
Now, my dear, only you can tell us, according to what ACTUALLY happens on the show, which of the three occurs.
(assuming you got to watch it)
There are three possible meanings of "fludized sand".
1. The form in the video - sand "bubbled" by gas.
- In this case, the sand would be: חול מורעד.
Do the guys from Smash Lab create "instant" sand with bubbles to stop cars? i assume not, but if they do that in the show, then it's חול מורעד. Even "Bubbly sand" (= חול מבעבע), if that's EXACTLY what they created there.
2. Sand as it is being "sprayed" from a sand machine, used for industrial cleaning etc., thus behaving like a fluid.
- In this case, the sand would be: חול מותז.
If what they do there is "spraying" the sand from sand machines, (which could create an instant barrier, but probably couldn't act as quicksand) then it's חול מותז.
3. The 3rd way is sand so wet that it acts like quicksand (which is by definition extremely wet sand that a person, aminal or object can drown in).
- In this case, the sand would be: חול רטוב.
So if what they do in the episode is block a road with wet wet sand,
your choice would be חול רטוב. BTW this one would be my guess...
Now, my dear, only you can tell us, according to what ACTUALLY happens on the show, which of the three occurs.
(assuming you got to watch it)
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